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Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by ibn_khaldun »

If anyone can help. I am looking for note taking application that can fulfill the following requirements:

- Plain-as-in-Plain Text - meaning I don't have to export my notes as JSON or XML or something else. Each note is a single .md or .txt file.

- Full-text search

- No Markup Lock-in - Meaning, for example, that I can use any flavor of Markdown (in my case MultiMarkdown) that I'd like and export/preview/build the file elsewhere.

- Preferably Mac native...or anything not Electron if necessary

- Wikilinks, please

The Archive fills these needs but after looking at their Roadmap, I've realized that I have no intentions of paying for an upgrade when V2 is released and I do not want to risk V1 slowly becoming a mess to operate somewhere down the line if I can find an alternative. The Archive is great because it's simple and it's core but can be extendable if necessary.

Obsidian is nice...but has too much going on for my liking. Same with Org-Roam.

I'm really considering Emacs w/ Zetteldeft.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by awake »

ibn_khaldun wrote: post #81

If anyone can help. I am looking for note taking application that can fulfill the following requirements: - Plain-as-in-Plain Text - meaning I don't have to export my notes as JSON or XML or something else. Each note is a single .md or .txt file. - Full-text search - No Markup Lock-in - Meaning, for example, that I can use any flavor of Markdown (in my case MultiMarkdown) that I'd like and export/preview/build the fi…

I feel like this is widely desired and could be implemented as a language server and then used in the text editor of your choice.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by totolouis »

ibn_khaldun wrote: post #81

If anyone can help. I am looking for note taking application that can fulfill the following requirements: - Plain-as-in-Plain Text - meaning I don't have to export my notes as JSON or XML or something else. Each note is a single .md or .txt file. - Full-text search - No Markup Lock-in - Meaning, for example, that I can use any flavor of Markdown (in my case MultiMarkdown) that I'd like and export/preview/build the fi…

What do you think about Zettlr? But I think it is an electron app...

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by X6S1x6Okd1st »

ibn_khaldun wrote: post #81

If anyone can help. I am looking for note taking application that can fulfill the following requirements: - Plain-as-in-Plain Text - meaning I don't have to export my notes as JSON or XML or something else. Each note is a single .md or .txt file. - Full-text search - No Markup Lock-in - Meaning, for example, that I can use any flavor of Markdown (in my case MultiMarkdown) that I'd like and export/preview/build the fi…

The joplin API works pretty well from my experience, although the note to note linkage is not great.

The export of notes dumps as guid.md file name.

I personally like it because it has the features I want, works well on mobile, local first backed up by sync (you provide the target) and the API isn't hard to use.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by Fnoord »

haswell wrote: post #37
JacksonGariety wrote: post #35

It only works for VSCode? This is so frustrating because this is exactly the kind of system I've been looking for.

Purely out of curiosity, why is the dependency on VS Code an issue?

It is bloated. High latency, uses unnecessary disk space, high on resources. My default editor is either Sublime or Vim (usually Vim but sometimes I prefer Sublime). VSCode as dependency is a dealbreaker for me.

So I was happy to read this on Dendron website (author linked it elsewhere):

> That being said, the core dendron engine is not vscode specific and there are folks that are experimenting with porting it over to other editors (eg. sublime, vim). We also have plans for a standalone editor in the future (most likely, this will be a fork of VSCode optimized for note taking)

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by spookybones »

dvt wrote: post #9

Hacker News loves their note taking apps. I've seen at least a dozen apps this year that have solved the exact same problem in just about the exact same ways. Am I the only one that still uses pen and paper? To me, there's a certain je ne sais quoi about closing my laptop and putting my phone away , grabbing a pen and my notebook, and brainstorming without technology.

Every time a new note app is suggested, I get deja vu here. HN quickly jumps into the alternative apps, pen and paper, longhand and memory retention, image and link insertion, searchability vs marginalia, org-mode, and those who covet the almighty e-ink solution.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by fastball »

pknopf wrote: post #2

I've always wanted a better way to document and structure arguments/debates. Assertions can have supporting statements (as children), that can be further expanded and evaluated. This way, I can evaluate and discard branches, distilling an argument to what matters. Would a tool like this help me?

I'm the cofounder of a startup[1] working on an app that might scratch your itch.

We built a note-taking system around digital notecards instead of documents, and those cards can be both linked hierarchally with parent/child relationships (and unlike most other platforms a card can have multiple parents) as well as with inline markdown link-style linking that you'll find in many other apps / wikis / tools for thought.

I definitely think the notecard format could be very useful for this use-case, as one card = one argument makes a lot of sense.

[1] https://supernotes.app

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by ibn_khaldun »

awake wrote: post #82
ibn_khaldun wrote: post #81

If anyone can help. I am looking for note taking application that can fulfill the following requirements: - Plain-as-in-Plain Text - meaning I don't have to export my notes as JSON or XML or something else. Each note is a single .md or .txt file. - Full-text search - No Markup Lock-in - Meaning, for example, that I can use any flavor of Markdown (in my case MultiMarkdown) that I'd like and export/preview/build the fi…

I feel like this is widely desired and could be implemented as a language server and then used in the text editor of your choice.

If you may, please explain to me what a language server is and how to implement one.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by ibn_khaldun »

X6S1x6Okd1st wrote: post #84
ibn_khaldun wrote: post #81

If anyone can help. I am looking for note taking application that can fulfill the following requirements: - Plain-as-in-Plain Text - meaning I don't have to export my notes as JSON or XML or something else. Each note is a single .md or .txt file. - Full-text search - No Markup Lock-in - Meaning, for example, that I can use any flavor of Markdown (in my case MultiMarkdown) that I'd like and export/preview/build the fi…

The joplin API works pretty well from my experience, although the note to note linkage is not great. The export of notes dumps as guid.md file name. I personally like it because it has the features I want, works well on mobile, local first backed up by sync (you provide the target) and the API isn't hard to use.

I was strongly considering Joplin the other day. I see it mentioned a lot at different sites. I respect how simple it is. The common trends seems to be based on stuffing as much features into an app to please the "Second brain" crowd, but I just want to take notes, I don't necessarily need all the graphs and glitter. Thank you.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by ibn_khaldun »

totolouis wrote: post #83
ibn_khaldun wrote: post #81

If anyone can help. I am looking for note taking application that can fulfill the following requirements: - Plain-as-in-Plain Text - meaning I don't have to export my notes as JSON or XML or something else. Each note is a single .md or .txt file. - Full-text search - No Markup Lock-in - Meaning, for example, that I can use any flavor of Markdown (in my case MultiMarkdown) that I'd like and export/preview/build the fi…

What do you think about Zettlr? But I think it is an electron app...

Yes, Zettlr is an Electron application. There's room for compromise (as you see, I've tried Obsidian). Thank you for the suggestion.
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