It is a politicized Murdoch owned newspaper, which essentially is a propaganda arm of the US hard right. Why is it being precious about all this?
It can go to parler if it does not like this private business rules.
Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account
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#232Well well well, if these aren't the consequences of their own actions
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#233To the people constantly saying that twitter is a private company and should be allowed to do whatever they want: Would you support the same idea around electrical power? If the power company providing the power to the office at the NyPost decided that they had a political disagreement with them, would it be okay to just cut off their power? NyPost could just make their own power, of course, by purchasing a generator…
What a dumb idea wrapped in flowery language. Your English really is quite good.
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#234The Post publishes a lot of disreputable trash that's outright false or unproven, but more and more often, it seems that they release primary sources of information (especially videos) much earlier than other news outlets will, if the other news outlets do so at all. There have been multiple times when I've seen an insane video of something happening spreading around Twitter or WorldStar or some other "raw video" agg…
It should not be the job of the social media companies to be judge and jury for truth. Let the people decide for themselves what is true and false. Basically the social media company argument is... we think people are too dumb to figure out what is "real" or not so we are going to censor. That to me is an extremely damning view of the common person. But then, everywhere on the platform.. "make a plan to vote". So you…
I can appreciate the deeply principled stand people on HN tend to make about this issue. I know there is a libertarian streak here around the access to content and information. I don't share those values, and think unchecked distribution of manipulated content creates a worse outcome for our society; I'd argue it is more inherently dystopian than straight-up government censored speech, which of course is not what's at stake here.
It doesn't matter whether I trust them to vote because they have a right to vote no matter what I think. I definitely do not trust masses of people to identify real vs. manipulated content that is expertly designed to be misleading, and I think companies that directly facilitate the spread of information have some level of responsibility for the consequences of enabling manipulated media to infect their users. I don't know what the balance is, I'm not dogmatic, but I think everyone needs to be a little less dogmatic on this issue.
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#235The Post publishes a lot of disreputable trash that's outright false or unproven, but more and more often, it seems that they release primary sources of information (especially videos) much earlier than other news outlets will, if the other news outlets do so at all. There have been multiple times when I've seen an insane video of something happening spreading around Twitter or WorldStar or some other "raw video" agg…
It's all headlines and nothing more. Buzzfeed and TMZ use an identical model. The fact they published the recent laptop story means they don't care at all about integrity or facts. Money is king!
We need to reinstate the fairness doctrine to restore honesty in media. The "news" we have today used to be called "entertainment" and half the people on cable news are opinionated talk show hosts if you can even stand to watch any of it.
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#236So just visit nypost.com, don't rely on twitter for your news.
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
So why wasn't the NYT punished for publishing info from Trump's tax returns? The laptop story could at least be true. There is no way for the NYT to receive Trump's tax returns without someone committing a crime.
NYT didn't publish Trump's tax returns, they published prose about supposed contents of Trump's tax returns. If the articles had PDFs of the documents at the bottom, Twitter should probably block them too. But they don't.
And why do you think that's a meaningful distinction?
No, I didn't publish a picture of your credit card, just the numbers on it.
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#238Honestly, I see this kind of action as good. The sooner the population at large realizes that Big Social aren't neutral players in the marketplace of ideas, the better. We need decentralized solutions, ASAP, and the only way that's going to happen is when normal people start caring.
The market-based solution depends on assumptions about people acting "rationally," which isn't possible with such asymmetry of information between the parties involved (media companies and individuals wanting information), and so much inertia to keep using services like Facebook long after the user even likes the service. Some kind of regulatory pressure will be absolutely necessary.
> The market-based solution depends on assumptions about people acting "rationally," which isn't possible with such asymmetry of information between the parties involved
It seems to me that having a respected publisher call out another publisher for having tried to peddle bullshit is an important contribution to reduce that asymmetry.
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#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your ISP and phone provider are private/non-state-owned entities too. The corporation providing the service doesn't matter, it's the how the service itself is used by the public. And social media is now at the same level as phones and internet.
> Your ISP and phone provider are private/non-state-owned entities too. Yep, and they can also terminate your service for any reason they choose.
I don't think this is true, and even if it were it would be something everyone except literal fascists would oppose.
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
It should not be the job of the social media companies to be judge and jury for truth. Let the people decide for themselves what is true and false. Basically the social media company argument is... we think people are too dumb to figure out what is "real" or not so we are going to censor. That to me is an extremely damning view of the common person. But then, everywhere on the platform.. "make a plan to vote". So you…
The "common person" is honestly pretty depressing. The common person primarily votes based solely on a historical allegiance to a political party (be it individually formed or inherited) with about 75% of America essentially being unmovable D or R safe votes. Censorship is a hard question and I think we do need to have better laws promoting free access to material (even "libelous" material) but this is also an area w…
With two parties divided along ideological left-right lines, it’s expected that a majority won’t be switching side too often in their lifetime. The opposite would be ideologically weak parties doing a form of clientelism that would change according to the trends of the day.