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Post by colinmhayes »

opnitro wrote: post #173
colinmhayes wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for the link. I think there's an argument that the syrian rebels were fighting terrorism before they were themselves terrorists, but I agree that the US should not be involved in the conflict, and definitely shouldn't fund paramilitary groups with the potential to become terrorists. The U.S. now admitting it was a mistake is important though, because the point of sanctions is to force a government to change…

Purposely funding terrorism does go unpunished, if you're a US ally. This is my point, that our sanctions against Iran have nothing to do with "morality". They are about power.

Yes, that's what being allies is. We do stuff for them they do stuff for us. I don't think that's immoral. Cooperation allows us to accomplish incredible things. Cooperation is built on relationships and trust.

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Post by Symbiote »

dijit wrote: post #259
Symbiote wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I only use Amazon Route 53. Does anyone know if that's ever been blocked in Iran etc? It doesn't seem to be blocked at the moment, but it's also something I can't find any official documentation on.

It would only affect you if your doing direct DNS requests to route53- which is almost never the case for clients.

But an Iranian ISP's customers will probably use that ISP's DNS servers, and that DNS resolver does query Route 53 from Iran.

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Post by kspacewalk2 »

0xy wrote: post #211
excieve wrote: post #184

What many don't seem to understand about Crimea, is that Crimea is an occupied territory of Ukraine [0] (as understood by UN, as well as most countries except the Russian Federation and several of its affiliated states). As an occupied territory, it doesn't have any legitimate institutions (such as a recognised government, banks, courts, etc.) — only a foreign occupation regime. Same way as Germany's Reichskommissari…

FWIW the people of Crimea overwhelmingly support Russian occupation according to independent Pew surveys. Any sanctions only serve to punish Crimeans, presumably to appease the Ukraine government (which is just as corrupt as Russia).

Conducting 'independent surveys' under military occupation in an authoritarian state is a thoroughly nonsensical proposition. In Russia, it is literally a crime (incitement of separatism) to question Crimea's status as rightfully Russian[0].

[0] https://meduza.io/cards/kak-v-rossii-presleduyut-za-prizyvy-...

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Post by rland »

616c wrote: post #18
doomlaser wrote: post #2

> GitLab is not the only actor in this discrimination against Persian/Iranian people, we also blocked by GitHub, Docker, NPM, Google Developer, Android, AWS, Go, Kubernetes and etc. US sanctions compliance most likely Edit: confirmed by Gitlab: https://twitter.com/gitlab/status/1312183287402512384

Sadly to the point. I feel for Iranians in Iran (I know many, whether they call themselves Persians or Iranians as expats is their choice and I respect that). Having had the opportunity to meet the former in their homeland so so long ago, many Americans do not understand how grueling the sanctions regime system is for average Iranian citizens in their everyday; this is sadly a minor example as I saw based experiences…

In the US and I agree. Sanctions are disgusting and work contrary to their goals. Ostensibly they put pressure on the governments of sanctioned countries, but in reality they strengthen people's ties to their governments while completely choking out regular people and especially the poor.

I don't think imposing sanctions has worked to our advantage ever, in any country, in the past 50 years we have used them. And in many, they have backfired, e.g. Iraq in the 90s. That isn't even to mention the hundreds of thousands of innocent people who lose their life. [1]

Yet, sanctions are considered to be "soft" and "dovish" by politicos and the general public. It's stupefying.

https://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/01/world/iraq-sanctions-kill...

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Post by Aeolun »

542458 wrote: post #89
PestoDiRucola wrote: post #28

Gitlab blocked Iran's Access* This happened because of US sanctions[0]. [0] https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-group/code-of-condu...

I’m a little confused at people who are mad at GitLab here. I’m under the impression that sanctions and export control laws tend to be fairly strict, and penalties for knowing non-compliance are harsh, including the possibility of jail time. GitLab’s hands are pretty tied here.

Gitlab isn’t originally a US company so there is zero reason for them to comply with US demands.

Unfortunately it seems they’ve somehow transformed it into a US company with all attendant benefits and penalties.

I’m assuming the benefits are in the form of cold hard cash, and the penalties are in the form of freedom.

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Post by CKN23-ARIN »

00__00 wrote: post #262

The internet is not a parallel universe. Of course, if you are in one country and your country has not trade with country B, then you adhere to those rules. There are many examples of this, not just in the sanction sense. People getting pissed. Seriously, this is macro economics!

> The internet is not a parallel universe.

John Perry Barlow begs to differ.

https://www.eff.org/cyberspace-independence

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Post by 0xy »

kspacewalk2 wrote: post #283
0xy wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW the people of Crimea overwhelmingly support Russian occupation according to independent Pew surveys. Any sanctions only serve to punish Crimeans, presumably to appease the Ukraine government (which is just as corrupt as Russia).

Conducting 'independent surveys' under military occupation in an authoritarian state is a thoroughly nonsensical proposition. In Russia, it is literally a crime (incitement of separatism) to question Crimea's status as rightfully Russian[0]. [0] https://meduza.io/cards/kak-v-rossii-presleduyut-za-prizyvy-...

I'm more inclined to trust nonpartisan independent Pew Research than your opinion. It's not the only independent survey either. There's also survey evidence from before the occupation.

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Post by Aeolun »

momokoko wrote: post #158
miracle2k wrote: post #88

People should resist the temptation to defend this. 1. Blocking Iranian IPs, as opposed to accounts, is almost certainly over-compliance. Note that the vast majority of websites do not do this. Even big ones, such as Gmail, do not do this. 2. It does not speak well of the United States justice system if someone could be prosecuted for failure to block Iranian IPs. If this were required, the law should be clear. Other…

This is dangerously inaccurate information. To those reading this, the US absolutely considers blocking Iranian IPs a required action under the sanctions. The person posting this could get you in serious legal trouble. With that said, most companies do not start blocking these IPs until they are either contacted by US authorities and asked to comply or via the recommendations of an audit by an outside private company…

> Please do not trust what this person is saying.

I don’t trust what you are saying either until you show me the sources of the claims.

I think it’s fair to say that everyone in a position to comply with US sanctions will carefully check what they need to do to comply with them.

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Post by Aeolun »

monkin wrote: post #3

GitLab can’t do nothing about it, and whining will not help. Everything is on government level.

Gitlab can either:

- Not be a US company

- Not comply with US sanctions

- Not do business in the US

There’s options. Just because they don’t want to take them doesn’t mean they’re not there.

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Post by jrochkind1 »

da39a3ee wrote: post #220
jrochkind1 wrote: post #125

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I legit am not sure how it sounded to you in a way that seemed unfortunate.

It implies that, unlike Crimea, the citizenry of countries _other_ than Crimea (Iran/Sudan/Cuba etc) _did_ do something wrong.

Ah, I see.

I mean, yeah, I think that kind of is the theory behind US sanctions sometimes honestly. It's pretty messed up. (And the US, which is a "democracy", would want to avoid looking in the mirror too).

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