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Post by 0xy »

excieve wrote: post #184

What many don't seem to understand about Crimea, is that Crimea is an occupied territory of Ukraine [0] (as understood by UN, as well as most countries except the Russian Federation and several of its affiliated states). As an occupied territory, it doesn't have any legitimate institutions (such as a recognised government, banks, courts, etc.) — only a foreign occupation regime. Same way as Germany's Reichskommissari…

FWIW the people of Crimea overwhelmingly support Russian occupation according to independent Pew surveys. Any sanctions only serve to punish Crimeans, presumably to appease the Ukraine government (which is just as corrupt as Russia).

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Post by f6v »

dijit wrote: post #84

Quick note that anyone using a US based cloud provider will likely be blocking all sanctioned countries. It’s not configurable at all. It was a sticking point for us when deploying the sequel to a game I was working on. Ultimately we determined that the benefits of using the provider outweighed the benefit to users since we weren’t shipping the game there officially anyway. (With one notable exception) It still leave…

> and the citizenry did nothing wrong Well nobody is wrong when it comes to Crimea except those who claim it’s part of Ukraine.

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Post by Zanni »

Dahoon wrote: post #153
r-w wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not in an era when information is the most valuable commodity. Just look at the discrepancy in patent treatment been the US and China: openness on our part can still go unrequited and be taken advantage of. No matter what we give a sanctioned county free access to, they can just bend it to their own will.

Did you just call the US patent system "Open"?

In order to obtain patent protection, you have to make public the details of your invention, so "open" in the sense that the information is available, and vulnerable thereby to foreign manufacturers who don't respect the patent.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Post by f6v »

542458 wrote: post #89
PestoDiRucola wrote: post #28

Gitlab blocked Iran's Access* This happened because of US sanctions[0]. [0] https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-group/code-of-condu...

I’m a little confused at people who are mad at GitLab here. I’m under the impression that sanctions and export control laws tend to be fairly strict, and penalties for knowing non-compliance are harsh, including the possibility of jail time. GitLab’s hands are pretty tied here.

There’s heated debate whether companies have to be political or not. Even whether it’s in principle possible to not be political. If someone thinks all companies should have political stance, then “silence is violence”, even worse, since gitlab is complying. US sanctions against Iran aren’t universally supported even by US satellites, and some would say are immoral. So time for some activism?

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Post by currymj »

Siira wrote: post #128

I am Persian. From what I gather, the middle-plus class here still mostly believes that changing the regime is costly and risky (especially since it might very well lead to a civil war, as the regime has no humanity and has shown that it will kill every single one of the people to survive). These sanctions certainly help align our incentives more with the US agenda, but they do not seem to be enough after all. Obama'…

US government does sponsor a lot of anti-censorship tools of that type: Tor was funded by the Navy and DARPA, Signal received initial funding from the same organization that runs Voice of America.

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Post by Gibbon1 »

arp242 wrote: post #206
excieve wrote: post #184

What many don't seem to understand about Crimea, is that Crimea is an occupied territory of Ukraine [0] (as understood by UN, as well as most countries except the Russian Federation and several of its affiliated states). As an occupied territory, it doesn't have any legitimate institutions (such as a recognised government, banks, courts, etc.) — only a foreign occupation regime. Same way as Germany's Reichskommissari…

On the other hand, many of the people living there are not at fault for any of this. They just ... live there. This is why I have such mixed feelings about these kind of sanctions: sure, I don't really disagree with what you're saying, but on the other hand in practice it means hurting normal people just building a life for themselves.

I read an opinion piece by Margret Meed (I think, memory may be off). Her claim was sanctions don't work. And all the burden falls on the powerless. All you end up doing is harming people that can't do anything and are blameless.

I haven't seen anything in the last 35 years that contradicts that.

The worse thing I've seen is the US is now so schizophrenic that countries under sanctions can't trust that making a deal with US to get sanctions lifted won't prevent them from being reimposed because some other fraction gains power.

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Post by Gibbon1 »

0xy wrote: post #211
excieve wrote: post #184

What many don't seem to understand about Crimea, is that Crimea is an occupied territory of Ukraine [0] (as understood by UN, as well as most countries except the Russian Federation and several of its affiliated states). As an occupied territory, it doesn't have any legitimate institutions (such as a recognised government, banks, courts, etc.) — only a foreign occupation regime. Same way as Germany's Reichskommissari…

FWIW the people of Crimea overwhelmingly support Russian occupation according to independent Pew surveys. Any sanctions only serve to punish Crimeans, presumably to appease the Ukraine government (which is just as corrupt as Russia).

My opinion, Crimea is a geopolitical nuance. Any cunning plan cooked up by a western leader that has to do with Crimea blows up in their face.

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Post by kdmytro »

trhway wrote: post #204
bigbubba wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm under the impression that nobody but Russian state media claims that election was legitimate.

wrong way in wrong elections :) Of course, like any Russian election it was just a formality, a décor. Nobody really needed it as the will of the people was clear - no more threats of more of those "trains of friendships" full of Western Ukrainian nationalists, especially given all the quiet massive arming of those nationalists that had happened under the cover of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the run up to the…

What massive arming?

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Post by da39a3ee »

da39a3ee wrote: post #103
dijit wrote: post #84

Quick note that anyone using a US based cloud provider will likely be blocking all sanctioned countries. It’s not configurable at all. It was a sticking point for us when deploying the sequel to a game I was working on. Ultimately we determined that the benefits of using the provider outweighed the benefit to users since we weren’t shipping the game there officially anyway. (With one notable exception) It still leave…

You might want to delete the "and the citizenry did nothing wrong" ending to your otherwise reasonable post. I don't think you meant it the way it sounds.

I am being misunderstood because of the wording I used. The reason "and the citizenry did nothing wrong" is problematic is because it implies that, unlike Crimea, the citizenry of countries _other_ than Crimea (Iran/Sudan/Cuba etc) _did_ do something wrong.

I was not saying that the citizens of Crimea did something wrong: I was saying the opposite.

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Post by da39a3ee »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #125
da39a3ee wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might want to delete the "and the citizenry did nothing wrong" ending to your otherwise reasonable post. I don't think you meant it the way it sounds.

I legit am not sure how it sounded to you in a way that seemed unfortunate.

It implies that, unlike Crimea, the citizenry of countries _other_ than Crimea (Iran/Sudan/Cuba etc) _did_ do something wrong.
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