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Re: The Now-Defunct Firms Behind 8chan, QAnon

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That is very interesting. Did you ever catch any spooks trying to manipulate your source code?

You're never going to see the government walking in the door modifying source code. Those are tales they tell ppl. They are going to just blackmail someone or make some poor kid believe he/she can be a hacker by slipping backdoors into the software.

Does anyone recall the person who got a call in the middle of the night from the 'FBI' requesting a source code handover?

Re: The Now-Defunct Firms Behind 8chan, QAnon

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All of US West’s assets were acquired as part of the merger transaction. In this case, there’s no evidence of a similar acquisition.

No evidence that you're aware of. Because they're not a publicly-traded company like US West. This is unsurprising.

It doesn't matter whether I, personally, am aware of this. It matters whether the organizations with whom the acquired entity did business are aware of it. It's the responsibility of the acquiring entity to keep those parties informed. And since some of these parties publish public information, it seems logical that we would be able to determine such acquisitions by looking at their public records.

Re: The Now-Defunct Firms Behind 8chan, QAnon

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Surprisingly, they were real women that fell for sock puppet accounts.

So whenever they arrived somewhere, would they be very confused and then leave because mr.sockpuppet wasn't around? You got to give more details, otherwise this story is pretty confusing.

Not at all. More like, pretend to be a woman in a sock puppet account and eventually let them know there is a discount on clothing at XYZ department store. Then they just show up at the location.

Re: The Now-Defunct Firms Behind 8chan, QAnon

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Any observers still unclear on what the walls of text might be designed to do should note that anyone not in favor of letting Qanon run amok is required to produce incontrovertible evidence of every single assertion they make, held to an impossible standard if anyone is being dishonest, while on the other side, statements like 'it's mostly "the left" doing the censorship these days' can be dropped without any support…

> Any observers still unclear on what the walls of text might be designed to do... Knowing(!) what the walls of text are "designed to do" requires ESP abilities (are you suggesting these exist, and you possess them?), and is also inconsistent with what they are actually designed to do (I know, because unlike you, I happen to have direct access to my mind) - a more accurate motivation was arrived at (and confirmed by…

> Have I made any such claim about the left? Why are you speaking as if I have?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24811209

Re: The Now-Defunct Firms Behind 8chan, QAnon

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Man, I never cared much for QAnon, but the way so many mainstream institutions are joining together, using the exact same misleading talking points, to censor something off the internet makes me wonder if they're onto something after all.

What misleading talking points? How does the media mis-represent what QAnon is?

QAnon is consistently claimed to be "dangerous" and "violent". The only justification for this is the guy who went into Comet Ping Pong with a rifle in search of a supposed basement dungeon. But Comet Ping Pong is a Pizzagate thing, which is a different theory than QAnon.

Pizzagate is based off of people taking deep dives into the leaked DNC emails and trying to follow up on some suspicious looking things. Just the kind of people who would be up for doing their own investigation into Comet Ping Pong.

QAnon is based off of people obsessively following and examining every detail of the posts of the pseudonymous Q on 8chan/8kun. A key part of QAnon ideology is that everything is already happening according to "the plan", so there is nothing for individual followers to do. Some of the most anti-Q people I know believe that it's some kind of psy-op to convince people to do nothing in the face of massive corruption because everything is actually under control.

Also worth remembering is that the CPP guy didn't actually hurt anyone. He scared the crap out of a few people, then was peacefully arrested.

So linking QAnon to violence is extremely dubious at best. If anything, the opposite is more true. So why does everybody just push those talking points endlessly and nobody publishes anything skeptical of it? Why is it so incredibly dangerous that we must bust out all the stops against it? This very post is talking about trying to do a hostile purchase of the IP addresses their host uses - who ever heard of the need to do that?!? We don't even do that for ISIS, Al-Quada, etc.

Meanwhile, Antifa and BLM are rioting and burning down cities across the nation, but nobody dares to even publish that, much less start to question their ideology and intentions. Perish the thought of even trying to investigate their links to the mainstream media, basically every major corporation, and Democrat party.

Re: The Now-Defunct Firms Behind 8chan, QAnon

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So, the banning worked. There is no opinions you don't like on the internet anymore? And all the reporting and exposure from protesters and activists, and portrayals in media aka sunshine. Hasn't reduced racism and gender bigotry over last 50 years. I've been alive 50 years. Everything is better now than in the 70s 80s or 90s. There are louder fringers, amplified by internet et al. But, society at large has, is, and…

> So, the banning worked. There is no opinions you don't like on the internet anymore? The "exodus" events were never about silencing __opinions__. They were about destroying __actions__. In the case of 4chan and Gamergate, the Gamergaters were constantly Doxxing people and Swatting people online. Because these doxxing events and swatting events have mostly stopped, I can absolutely say that it was a success. ----- I…

> LUEsers went to Something Awful IIRC

Most went to an invite only board called LUELinks / ETI.

Re: The Now-Defunct Firms Behind 8chan, QAnon

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> Yes? It's a different claim. Somebody doing X and a culture where many people turn a blind eye to and enable X aren't the same thing. I don't think it makes a huge difference tbh. > We're talking about forums on the internet. Are you an I "aligned" because we had this discussion here? No. But this is a forum that generally frowns on and downvotes conspiracy theories. If you go to a forum that's primary function is…

You said: > If you had a genuine interest in an issue that you wanted to raise in public awareness or do something to combat it, the route of the conspiracy theorist is an awfully dumb way to do it. I said: > What is the right way to address e.g. the widespread availability of illegal prostitution in hotels owned by American companies in foreign countries? And you said: > find a different problem to solve that is wit…

I said "you should probably either do the investigation yourself, fund someone else to do the investigation, or find a different problem to solve that is within your power to affect."

Re: The Now-Defunct Firms Behind 8chan, QAnon

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You're never going to see the government walking in the door modifying source code. Those are tales they tell ppl. They are going to just blackmail someone or make some poor kid believe he/she can be a hacker by slipping backdoors into the software.

Does anyone recall the person who got a call in the middle of the night from the 'FBI' requesting a source code handover?

Yup. But I thought it was the NSA for an encryption program?

Re: The Now-Defunct Firms Behind 8chan, QAnon

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That is very interesting. Did you ever catch any spooks trying to manipulate your source code?

You're never going to see the government walking in the door modifying source code. Those are tales they tell ppl. They are going to just blackmail someone or make some poor kid believe he/she can be a hacker by slipping backdoors into the software.

Ain't that the truth

Re: The Now-Defunct Firms Behind 8chan, QAnon

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> Any observers still unclear on what the walls of text might be designed to do... Knowing(!) what the walls of text are "designed to do" requires ESP abilities (are you suggesting these exist, and you possess them?), and is also inconsistent with what they are actually designed to do (I know, because unlike you, I happen to have direct access to my mind) - a more accurate motivation was arrived at (and confirmed by…

> Have I made any such claim about the left? Why are you speaking as if I have? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24811209

Oh my....well I certainly deserve that one!!! Sadly, I have but one upvote to award you, and of course my respect for your keen eye!

Although, considering the content of the conversations in this thread, could I not simply invoke evidence-by-mind-reading? Is what's good for the goose not also good for the gander?

Regardless, while I have your attention....I'm curious if you have any thoughts on the ideas (specifically, "ESP" and "sea-lioning" nuances) in my previous comment? I think these sorts of things are quite interesting ideas.

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