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I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Post by redis_mlc »

tracer4201 wrote: post #425
abc-xyz wrote: post #408

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Calling it the China/Chinese Virus helps continuously remind the world that China are 100% responsible for the pandemic. The only reason I’m voting for Trump is due to him being able/willing to stand up to China. It would be great if more politicians realized that China is an issue that will win/lose votes so I didn’t have to vote against the majority of my beliefs. As for arming Taiwan (I assume Hong Kong was a typo…

What does calling the virus the Chinese virus achieve? Does it solve the current crisis we are in? I’d like to go back to my original question - what is the substance or end result? And in your mind, what does it mean that Trump is willing to “stand up” to China? What is the net effect or outcome? Last I checked, there are over 200,000 Americans dead from the virus. The American President initially denied it was a re…

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Post by agent00f »

ghoomketu wrote: post #176

I'm in complete and utter disbelief reading this. How can stuff like this be happening in 2020? I mean this seriously but as a lowly computer programmer is there any way we can help these poor people other than offer our sympathy?

> How can stuff like this be happening in 2020?

Yeah, it's pretty shocking that americans are actively bombing brown people by the millions, while simultaneously pretending to be the good guys grandstanding about "human rights" or whatever.

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neycoda wrote: post #201

China has built almost 400 new camps since 2017, while new testimonies have emerged alleging slave labour, forced sterilisations and organ harvesting taking place inside the camps too.

> alleging slave labour

Just to address the first item, this is referring to (ie all sourced from) the ASPI report, which is literally murdoch media. It's actually quite instructive to look at how it spread via rest of the media ecosystem from that one piece of agitprop.

Also pretty comical that the ostensibly "educated" tech people are no harder to manipulate than the fox news audience.

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Post by wolco2 »

ddelt wrote: post #333
slashdev wrote: post #262

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The monster we created. You can say all you want about the mistakes and dirty actions of the USA-led world since the end of the second world war, but you're delusional if you think a CCP led world order would be an improvement.

> " ... if you think a CCP led world world order would be an improvement." I don't think the parent comment suggested anything like what you just said. And I agree with that parent comment, in that I find it amusing mental-floss to imagine how a very-low income family in the US can completely avoid Chinese made products.

What kind of low income family?

Family living off the grid in eco-friendly community already does.

Farmer family can avoid a lot.

Poor family in the city or burbs has few options and can't avoid walmart/dollar stores.

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Post by agent00f »

blub wrote: post #258
bhaskara2 wrote: post #202

CCP must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against CCP now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid buying China made products. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product especially Amazon. Amazon is flooded with cheap Chinese products almost certainly made in inhumane condition…

Are you posting from 30 years ago? Because of the greed and stupidity of Western governments and companies it is literally impossible to avoid buying China made products.

> Because of the greed and stupidity of Western governments and companies

Interesting how you left out the folks who buy the products in question.

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Post by agent00f »

phobosanomaly wrote: post #509
ghoomketu wrote: post #176

I'm in complete and utter disbelief reading this. How can stuff like this be happening in 2020? I mean this seriously but as a lowly computer programmer is there any way we can help these poor people other than offer our sympathy?

You're actually in a better position than you think. Check out the history of Brown Moses, and Bellingcat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Higgins "Higgins' analyses of Syrian weapons, which began as a hobby out of his home in his spare time, are frequently cited by the press and human rights groups and have led to parliamentary discussion." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellingcat " Bellingcat (stylized as bell¿…

> Higgins' analyses of Syrian weapons

The ironic and actually instructive part of this is that his work was used to rationalize the Syrian war for the west, which has left an absolutely devastating trail of misery for countless millions of Syrian people.

Even more instructive is that the people responsibly for that misery all still pretend to be the good guys.

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Post by wolco2 »

abc-xyz wrote: post #383
blub wrote: post #258

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Are you posting from 30 years ago? Because of the greed and stupidity of Western governments and companies it is literally impossible to avoid buying China made products.

You don’t need to boycott 100% to be effective. Boycotting 80%, or even 10%, is surely better than doing nothing. I’d also say it’s surprisingly easy to boycott Chinese goods, as well as companies kowtowing to China.

Easy? Does your list extend to the tech giants whi have kowtowed already?

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ordo_inf wrote: post #381
kepler1 wrote: post #210

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As long as 95% of the people in the US keep on buying items with their wallets open, and we're distracted with our own internal strife, what hope is there to counter this? Our leadership certainly isn't up to standing against this sort of thing these days.

Not just the US, China exports stuff everywhere . I think this can be mitigated by making planned obsolescence illegal and somehow forcing companies to maximize quality. We don't need crappy pens, toys, electronics, etc... I don't know about you, but I'm personally happy to own one ballpoint pen that'll last me for 20 years (and only have to refill it from time to time). If anything, just to not see some poor guy wor…

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Post by phobosanomaly »

agent00f wrote: post #517
phobosanomaly wrote: post #509

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You're actually in a better position than you think. Check out the history of Brown Moses, and Bellingcat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Higgins "Higgins' analyses of Syrian weapons, which began as a hobby out of his home in his spare time, are frequently cited by the press and human rights groups and have led to parliamentary discussion." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellingcat " Bellingcat (stylized as bell¿…

> Higgins' analyses of Syrian weapons The ironic and actually instructive part of this is that his work was used to rationalize the Syrian war for the west, which has left an absolutely devastating trail of misery for countless millions of Syrian people. Even more instructive is that the people responsibly for that misery all still pretend to be the good guys.

I'm not sure I'd be as quick to boil that whole thing down to a 'neocons did Iraq'-style narrative.

I don't think the pieces of Syria fit quite so neatly together.

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