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I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Post by stef25 »

hhjinks wrote: post #291
brianhorakh wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Educate yourself. Reddit r/sino is a great place to read the opposition. There are ALWAYs two sides to these stories. Many are fabricated to apply for diplomatic immunity. Uighers represent a very small minority of the overall Chinese population, but almost all domestic terrorism (when the campaign against their culture started in 2014). Yes, their religious culture is being attacked, yes many (most) are good people,…

Oh no, imagine resorting to terrorism when your ethnicity and culture is systematically being erased by the second largest regime in the world.

Uighurs have been committing terrorist attacks since way before these camps have existed: 1992 Ürümqi bombings, the 1997 Ürümqi bus bombings, the 2010 Aksu bombing, the 2011 Hotan attack, 2011 Kashgar attacks, the 2014 Ürümqi attack and the 2014 Kunming attack. And bombing a shrine in Bangkok killing 20.

Home made bombs dropped in markets, driving trucks in to crowds of people, random knife attacks. Doesn't sound unfamiliar here in Europe. They're all reading from the same book.

What China is doing is pretty horrible but it's not like Xi woke up one day and decided he didn't like Uighurs.

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Post by baybal2 »

coldtea wrote: post #89

Here's the realpolitik deal, as I understand it. China doesn't really care about terrorism. What they do care for is a separatism movement. Not because they can't afford to give some land to those to make their own country, but because they fear that that country (or the population within China's borders if no country is created) will be used against them from foreign powers as a pressure point against China. Which i…

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Post by ddelt »

slashdev wrote: post #262
blub wrote: post #258

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Are you posting from 30 years ago? Because of the greed and stupidity of Western governments and companies it is literally impossible to avoid buying China made products.

The monster we created. You can say all you want about the mistakes and dirty actions of the USA-led world since the end of the second world war, but you're delusional if you think a CCP led world order would be an improvement.

> " ... if you think a CCP led world world order would be an improvement."

I don't think the parent comment suggested anything like what you just said. And I agree with that parent comment, in that I find it amusing mental-floss to imagine how a very-low income family in the US can completely avoid Chinese made products.

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Post by Devils-Avocado »

bhaskara2 wrote: post #202

CCP must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against CCP now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid buying China made products. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product especially Amazon. Amazon is flooded with cheap Chinese products almost certainly made in inhumane condition…

Chinese influence runs deeper than manufacturing. Politicians across the West (or sons of politicians) have sold themselves to various Chinese interests. No need to invade the USA when you can just buy off a vice-president's son for $5million, for example.

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Post by nendroid »

Can someone confirm whether genocide is actually occuring? I understand cultural genocide is happening, but is mass human slaughter at the level of the holocaust actually occurring?

I don't condone the actions china takes but I don't want to read an exaggerated story either.

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Post by seppin »

nendroid wrote: post #326
eloff wrote: post #251

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What a disgusting comment.

Nobody wants to read this on HN. If you disagree post why you disagree, an insult like this serves no purpose other than alienating alternative opinions. If I had the karma I would flag you.

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Post by ReptileMan »

crispyporkbites wrote: post #254
brianhorakh wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Educate yourself. Reddit r/sino is a great place to read the opposition. There are ALWAYs two sides to these stories. Many are fabricated to apply for diplomatic immunity. Uighers represent a very small minority of the overall Chinese population, but almost all domestic terrorism (when the campaign against their culture started in 2014). Yes, their religious culture is being attacked, yes many (most) are good people,…

Replace Uigher with Jew, Chinese with German and CCP with Nazi and this comment would have fit right into 1939

It won't. The Jews in Germany weren't offer even the shitty options the Uighur have. The German state never tried to assimilate the jews. Even worse - the government sent to the camps even jews so thoroughly assimilated that it was surprise to them that they were having Jewish ancestors.

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Post by seppin »

dragonwriter wrote: post #313
eznzt wrote: post #297

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There is no such thing as "French Islam". It's either French culture or Islamic culture. Macron has said (I don't really believe him) French culture is the only option.

> There is no such thing as "French Islam". I find it quite hard to believe that there is not any degree of distinct Islamic culture that has developed in France (both in the sense of present France and the broader sense of historical French territory) under the influence on broader French culture. And by “hard to believe”, I mean entirely implausible.

> There is no such thing as "French Islam"

This is also the literal mantra of ISIS. "Muslims will always be the 'other' in Europe, and we need to make sure they aren't even integrated."

In that way the far right and militant islam are on the same page. Neither wants a successful integration.

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Post by ardit33 »

Devils-Avocado wrote: post #334
bhaskara2 wrote: post #202

CCP must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against CCP now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid buying China made products. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product especially Amazon. Amazon is flooded with cheap Chinese products almost certainly made in inhumane condition…

Chinese influence runs deeper than manufacturing. Politicians across the West (or sons of politicians) have sold themselves to various Chinese interests. No need to invade the USA when you can just buy off a vice-president's son for $5million, for example.

or have a current president with a hidden bank account and forward some 17mil to him when he gets elected...
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