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Re: YouTube-dl source code encoded in two images

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Post by e12e »

dogma1138 wrote: post #76
e12e wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm, I misremebered the patent clause in apache2 - I thought it revoked both copyright license and patent license - but it is limited to the patent. At any rate my suggestion/idea was to take inspiration from: > If You institute patent litigation against any entity (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a lawsuit) alleging that the Work or a Contribution incorporated within the Work constitutes direct or contribu…

Again invocation of the DMCA against whom, the original license issuer for that specific project or for any party and cause? The patent clause in Apache is rather common in various FRAND and open standard agreements to prevent the project from being taken hostage in disputes between corporations. If you apply something similar to a wide spread license like GPL for example it means that if I’m hosting a website runnin…

Yes, the idea would be to kill takedown requests. Perhaps limit it to requests for takedown requests against software, not other media?

Again, I'm not saying this is a good idea - but it's an idea.

Re: YouTube-dl source code encoded in two images

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Post by e12e »

bdcravens wrote: post #60
e12e wrote: post #34

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Maybe. Some will argue for software parents too. Copyright infringement was illegal before the DMCA and I'm not convinced it improves things. In fact, I'm pretty sure we'd be better off if it was repealed.

Isn't one of the largest benefits of DMCA the safe harbor protections? Like you said, copyright law exists without DMCA, in which case the Githubs and Youtubes of the world could be sued.

But I don't think safe harbour was entirely new with DMCA - it's a formalisation of what was there? Wasn't there some cases in the 90s where free web hosts and isps were found to not be responsible for users hosting copyright material? Maybe I misremeber.

Re: YouTube-dl source code encoded in two images

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Post by neves »

syshum wrote: post #45
neves wrote: post #44

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Ok, I believe it is a joke, but I find really weird to see the government, a collective social construction, as the source of all evil.

A government is like fire, a handy servant, but a dangerous master Government comes in many forms but at its core government is a monopoly on the invitation of force. Governments are instituted to use force to compell action or inaction. The laws of a government can be democratic or dictorial but in either case the laws are backed by this threat of force Evil is a subjective value. So for a government to be evil you…

This can be a theoretical argumentation, but I'd still think it is crazy. I'd love have an open source being used to improve the lives of other citizens.

Re: YouTube-dl source code encoded in two images

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Post by hyperdimension »

sgt wrote: post #13

Great, now Imagemagick will receive a DMCA takedown notice! Can someone encode Imagemagick as audio using sox?

Sure, in Phil Zimmerman-style!

We can convert it to audio, maybe using dialup-like FSK/PSK, and we can even upload it to YouTube with a spiffy bit of 'cover-art!'

That way, whenever anyone needs a copy of ImageMagick, they can just download the vi-- Oh.

Re: YouTube-dl source code encoded in two images

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Post by 533474 »

Ahmed90 wrote: post #14

Genuine question, how viable is it, if we (code monkeys) created some sort of a blacklist of the entities that are not allowed to use our open source projects? -- something like "We don't support Internet Explorer" but a bit more aggressive? like "These entities don't understand the Internet, we don't support them, they cant use our software"? Maintaining that list would be a ton of work and edge cases tho :/

Look at the FSF, EFF...old MIT wizards went through the same...we should avoid centralised hosting for projects like these or be bullied into closing them by lobby groups

Re: YouTube-dl source code encoded in two images

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Post by 533474 »

Santosh83 wrote: post #10

Most countries are being pressured into converging on a global set of copyright laws (among others), so unless we demand and can realise changes in the law , this is going to be a perpetual battle of attrition, and the other side's job in done when it becomes inconvenient enough for widespread use. They don't need to wipe something out completely.

That and us, americans who keep on voting for incompetent fools...Is the FSF able to help in this case if it were a project in their organization? how can devs unite and fight against this type of bullying?...honestly, most of HN keeps on demonizing the FSF when they can be a legal force against cases like these...now we are all fragmented and weak

Re: YouTube-dl source code encoded in two images

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Post by 533474 »

themihai wrote: post #12

We should start a political movement to stop this tyranny. Like the climate change movement it will take time but at least we will make some progress.

There are movements such as the FSF and EFF. Why not join and get ur voice heard?...or perhaps start a new movement, not separate to those that already exist, but complementary and cooperative

Re: YouTube-dl source code encoded in two images

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Post by banana_giraffe »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #61
ape4 wrote: post #56

How does it work anyhow? It must do more than `wget` the mp4

That is essentially what it does: it uses Youtube's own API to formulate the correct URL, using all publicly known data that Google themselves publish so Youtube can function.

One thing many people are not aware of: youtube-dl actually does it's thing for a whole bunch of sites that aren't youtube.

Generally, it pulls down the HTML page for a site, parses it, and uses the results to pull down the video. The extractor for youtube itself is the most complex one, but there are plenty of others.

Last time I checked it had extractors for something like 700 different sites, along with a generic one that works on a bunch of sites. In general, you can just point it at any video page you see online and have a fairly high chance of it doing the right thing.

Re: YouTube-dl source code encoded in two images

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Post by ape4 »

banana_giraffe wrote: post #88
DiabloD3 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is essentially what it does: it uses Youtube's own API to formulate the correct URL, using all publicly known data that Google themselves publish so Youtube can function.

One thing many people are not aware of: youtube-dl actually does it's thing for a whole bunch of sites that aren't youtube. Generally, it pulls down the HTML page for a site, parses it, and uses the results to pull down the video. The extractor for youtube itself is the most complex one, but there are plenty of others. Last time I checked it had extractors for something like 700 different sites, along with a generic…

Now might be a good time to rename it to video-dl

Re: YouTube-dl source code encoded in two images

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Post by pyuser583 »

dogma1138 wrote: post #28
e12e wrote: post #20

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Maybe we need apache with DMCA clause (like patent clause)-if you ever invoke DMCA your license is forfeit? I'm not sure how viable it is - the GPL is hack on top of copyright - but the DMCA is an extension on top of copyright too (however ill advised).

Invoke DMCA against whom? The specific project or in general?

And by whom? The RCIAA loses all licenses to open source software. No water off their backs.

Individual music companies might be hit a lot harder.

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