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I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

tonetheman wrote: post #88
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #48

think twice before buying made in china, for this man,s torture is added to your karma.

I hate this type of comment. Just so black and white and uninformed. Bluntly there are not many things you can purchase that do not come from or have parts made in China. Food maybe? You could instead not purchase goods from companies (not countries) that actively support China in exploiting these people. (like apple) https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-forced-uighur-labor-ip...

I chose to instead be patient and look for free devices or buy secondhand.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Post by free_rms »

dragonwriter wrote: post #95
coldtea wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find "whataboutism is not an argument" is a knee-jerk conditioned reaction against putting things in perspective. It's almost a Pavlovian thought-stopping response by now - "sure, we have faults but we know them already, can we now concentrate on treating the enemy as some unique evil again?".

No, it's “uniqueness isn't the argument, stop beating that strawman”.

China is uniquely fixated on here on HN, there's a thread every few days painting them as a unique threat.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

coldtea wrote: post #71
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #48

think twice before buying made in china, for this man,s torture is added to your karma.

So like Guantanamo, the invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan and close to a century of Kissinger and his ilk, is added to one's karma if they buy US products?

Yes, if you buy new U.S. products, all those things are on your karma.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Post by yeetman21 »

gambiting wrote: post #123
yeetman21 wrote: post #104

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It is more economical than building massive housing complexes and feeding entire populations for years on end

No it isn't, and it doesn't take much research to find out why. Any time the Nazis did it(like in Lvov) it took a huge amount of work to help with burrying/burning the bodies, Nazis didn't want to do it so they would conscript the local population, which was then likely to strike back as they knew exactly what would happen to them. If you told people you were "relocating" them they were far more likely to come peacef…

Completely false. The transportation and logistical requirement alone would have outweighed the costs of a mass grave or pyre.

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Post by lerptime »

selimthegrim wrote: post #124
nendroid wrote: post #87

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The war on terror deliberately avoided slaughtering white people and american citizens. The slaughtering was kept exclusively to people with middle eastern backgrounds. It's the same.

Not true, there was a white British woman in Syria whose child by her white British ex was killed as well

These were very very rare. The US would justify sending a cruise missile into the middle east to kill one target that MAY accidentally harm bystanders but they would never conduct such action on American soil to destroy a terrorist cell that MAY harm american citizens.

Extreme precautions were taken to make sure that all killings involved middle easterners. Were the precautions perfect? No. But obviously the killings were kept exclusive to a race.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Post by dang »

iongoatb wrote: post #19
iaw wrote: post #15

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> cultural purging and crimes against humanity These existed long before the concept of communism, we can debate communisms merits (of which it has some but not many) or we can actually discuss the crimes against humanity being perpetrated by a dual capitalist/communist society regardless of their political theory of choice.

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Please stop posting these.

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Post by dirtyid »

bigpumpkin wrote: post #24

I'm curious why this man was denied a US visa in 2018 despite an invitation from Congress to speak about his experience. [1] [1] https://apnews.com/article/dc4062529014451e914ab361b3987afd

IIRC, There was a deleted twitter thread where tankies was going through social media exposing affiliation of popular Uyghur atrocity propagandist and yours truly had links to ETIM on facebook. Omir provided some of the earlier testimonials against the camps, he's a propaganda circuit regular but his testimony has been pretty consistent, and his treatment is about what I'd expect China would reserve for ETIM and ETIM associates aka Chinese Gitmo.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Post by dang »

iongoatb wrote: post #14
dang wrote: post #9

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However bad communism is, please don't take HN threads in generic ideological directions. Those are off topic here. Hundreds of explanations of why that is may be found at these links: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

This comment was censored because it was critical of communism.

Because it was lame.

You've posted 4 of these. That's abusive so please stop.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Post by fakedang »

dragonwriter wrote: post #100
fakedang wrote: post #94

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Strong disagree. Religion is opium for the masses. What would replace the time wasted in religious activities? Facebook? We all know where that got us.

> Religion is opium for the masses, as Napoleon succinctly put it. As confusion between historical figures goes, Bonaparte - Marx isn't one you see that frequently. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_people

Ouch, I just remember reading it in French somewhere, attributed to Napoleon. Guess it's Mandela syndrome striking me.
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