Ask HN: Why isn’t finance a part of the core curriculum at schools? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Why isn’t finance a part of the core curriculum at schools?

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Post by giantg2 » Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 12:23 PM UTC

aliassmith wrote: post #43

Every recommendation to add "x" to a school curriculum should state explicitly what alternative activity should be cut to free up time. This could be another subject, sleep or childrens' free time. For example, a better question would be "Why don't we eliminate and teach finance instead?"

Secondary education typically includes some elective classes or even study hall periods. These suggested classes can even be a single semester, and may already be offered as electives. In fact, I took a 1 semester personal finance class in high school.

I strongly support adding personal finance and logic (philosophy of arguement) courses to the core curriculum.

Re: Ask HN: Why isn’t finance a part of the core curriculum at schools?

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Post by diogenescynic » Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 12:38 PM UTC

jl2718 wrote: post #90

This information is readily available already. The only important thing is what’s not available. My brother got the best small business education possible by selling energy contracts door-to-door. He learned how every type of small business in NYC works: how much money they make, how much money comes from ‘other’ sources, how they manage cash versus credit income, how much gets stolen from them, who owns the business…

>Young attractive women also get an excellent financial education through dating, at least in terms of how much money people have made through various means, and how smart they have to be for it. I think this is yet another reason why women quit the engineering pipeline.

This is a garbage comment.

Re: Ask HN: Why isn’t finance a part of the core curriculum at schools?

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Post by loceng » Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 12:50 PM UTC

diogenescynic wrote: post #92

jl2718 wrote: post #90

This information is readily available already. The only important thing is what’s not available. My brother got the best small business education possible by selling energy contracts door-to-door. He learned how every type of small business in NYC works: how much money they make, how much money comes from ‘other’ sources, how they manage cash versus credit income, how much gets stolen from them, who owns the business…

>Young attractive women also get an excellent financial education through dating, at least in terms of how much money people have made through various means, and how smart they have to be for it. I think this is yet another reason why women quit the engineering pipeline. This is a garbage comment.

At minimum I don't understand how their conclusion fits.

Re: Ask HN: Why isn’t finance a part of the core curriculum at schools?

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Post by Hackbraten » Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 12:50 PM UTC

jl2718 wrote: post #90

This information is readily available already. The only important thing is what’s not available. My brother got the best small business education possible by selling energy contracts door-to-door. He learned how every type of small business in NYC works: how much money they make, how much money comes from ‘other’ sources, how they manage cash versus credit income, how much gets stolen from them, who owns the business…

> Young attractive women also get an excellent financial education through dating, at least in terms of how much money people have made through various means, and how smart they have to be for it.

That part of your comment is not only bullshit but also utterly misogynistic and sexist.

Re: Ask HN: Why isn’t finance a part of the core curriculum at schools?

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Post by kharak » Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 12:51 PM UTC

jl2718 wrote: post #90

This information is readily available already. The only important thing is what’s not available. My brother got the best small business education possible by selling energy contracts door-to-door. He learned how every type of small business in NYC works: how much money they make, how much money comes from ‘other’ sources, how they manage cash versus credit income, how much gets stolen from them, who owns the business…

> Young attractive women also get an excellent financial education through dating, at least in terms of how much money people have made through various means, and how smart they have to be for it. I think this is yet another reason why women quit the engineering pipeline.

You lost me there. What education do you mean exactly? Does automatically every "young attractive women" have this experience? Why only this subgroup? Is there any data backing any of this?

Re: Ask HN: Why isn’t finance a part of the core curriculum at schools?

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Post by Garlef » Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 12:52 PM UTC

jl2718 wrote: post #90

This information is readily available already. The only important thing is what’s not available. My brother got the best small business education possible by selling energy contracts door-to-door. He learned how every type of small business in NYC works: how much money they make, how much money comes from ‘other’ sources, how they manage cash versus credit income, how much gets stolen from them, who owns the business…

> This information is readily available already.

Most information IS (internet) and WAS (libraries) readily available...

I hope you see the difference between availability and being part of a curriculum.

> Young attractive women ... quit the engineering pipeline.

It seems you are either trolling. Or your insecurities have lead you to adopt some mysogonistic crap.

Re: Ask HN: Why isn’t finance a part of the core curriculum at schools?

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Post by Hackbraten » Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 12:56 PM UTC

anjellow wrote: post #85

PurpleFoxy wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We could eliminate religion classes from schools

The only schools with religious ed are religious schools. Do you think this would be a general fix?

Religious ed in public schools is quite common in many countries, including most of Europe.

Re: Ask HN: Why isn’t finance a part of the core curriculum at schools?

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Post by watwut » Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 12:57 PM UTC

jay_kyburz wrote: post #72

I don't think the problem is people not understanding tools for managing money, I think people have a vastly different ideas about what money _is_ and what its _for_. This is largely an ethical / moral / social issue. (not sure the correct word). I've been thinking about it a bit lately because I have 2 young kids at home just starting to earn pocket money. For them money is to spend on treats. Sometimes I can convin…

Then again, I used to save up for something larger and my kids tend to save up for something larger too.

Re: Ask HN: Why isn’t finance a part of the core curriculum at schools?

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Post by watwut » Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 1:00 PM UTC

silverpepsi wrote: post #54

bobthepanda wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More importantly, where are we going to find the time in an eight hour day to teach more things? What is going to get tossed to the wayside? People have already complained that arts, music, civics, home ec, and trade classes were tossed to the wayside for APs and STEM. What else is left to toss?

That's the eternal problem when you start with the status quo - a zero sum give and take - a battle betwixt pressure groups There should be a top down revision of the curriculum every decade - you start by defining the final result - after 12 years of compulsory education what does every citizen and illegal need to know and to what exact degree? What is the minimum number of hours of instruction that can be used to a…

The kids have already too many hours of schooling. It is packed and we are not at "minimum number of hours of instruction" at all. We are basically over maximum number of hours.

Re: Ask HN: Why isn’t finance a part of the core curriculum at schools?

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Post by gurleen_s » Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 1:00 PM UTC

jl2718 wrote: post #90

This information is readily available already. The only important thing is what’s not available. My brother got the best small business education possible by selling energy contracts door-to-door. He learned how every type of small business in NYC works: how much money they make, how much money comes from ‘other’ sources, how they manage cash versus credit income, how much gets stolen from them, who owns the business…

> Young attractive women also get an excellent financial education through dating, at least in terms of how much money people have made through various means, and how smart they have to be for it. I think this is yet another reason why women quit the engineering pipeline.

This is an incredibly sexist take- women aren’t leaving engineering professions because they can just date someone wealthy. They leave because there are too many men with opinions like this one.