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Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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I am so fucking glad I never stopped buying my music on CDs and ripping the tracks like a caveman. Why is it considered reasonable to rely on services and companies that we know we're going to outlive?

In the last few days, I've seen a lot of people getting angry at Spotify and (now) at Google Music. What I am surprised at is so few folks are talking about going back to physical media. Music CDs will take up physical space and might be more expensive upfront (though I doubt they'll be so in the long run). However, the upsides are huge. One, you own the content forever - even if you switch countries or want to pass…

I hate physical media and I think most others do as well. It is inconvenient, you can't make a playlist and it gets damaged.

I can buy downloadable MP3s from Amazon, if I wanted to own the music.

Thing is, I don't. I want a streaming service that has all the music ever produced, that I can hook into the player of my choice, and one that works on my phone when I am driving, and at my computer at work when I am working and at my home computer when I am at home.

CDs wouldn't do any of that and they are a pain to rip and I don't want the music on different devices.

I can't hear the difference between a 256+ MP3 and neither can most people. I won't argue that nobody can, but most people who have thousands of dollars in audio equipment probably weren't streaming to begin with.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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I'm the same way, except that photos is still amazing.

What features do you like of photos? For me it seems more or less (mostly less?) than iPhoto though I'm not really an iPhoto user. What I find frustrating is I'd like to name people (as in face recognition) but the UI for doing so is horrible. Instead of being optimized to let me tag 50 to 100 people it's design to do one person at a time in a tedious way where you pick one face from the list of faces which takes to…

not OP, but for me the killer feature of photos is having a phone gallery that syncs with the cloud and is easy to browse in my phone and my pc. My phone breaking or being lost is way less of a worry now since I don't have to worry about backups, and I can take a picture and have it available in my pc instantly.

iPhoto is mostly the same but it's too tied to the os, which is a problem if I want to move to android for a while or need a photo in my work laptop that isn't tied to my apple account.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Anyone using Stadia is risking all their game purchases getting lost when it shuts down.

are there even people using stadia? I'm not even talking about technical barriers(latency) - but the fact that they have both monthly sub and you have to pay for titles.

I am for now. There was the upfront controller investment as I already had the Chromecasts. For the most part I just play the free games on offer because of the fear of throwing money down a hole.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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>The migration was super botched by the product team because of this. I honestly don't know why Google's Product Team has any positive reputation at this point. I can count on one hand the number of positive launches from that company that didn't involve buying another company or product. It's almost as if they're so good at playing politics and "the game" that people can't see the actual track record is shit.

> I honestly don't know why Google's Product Team has any positive reputation at this point. They have a positive reputation? I've been a loyal Googler for about 20 years. Nexus, Pixel, Chromecasts, GMail, Fi, Android TV, Google Domains... I'm about done. It seems like every month they do something to make it more apparent that they're just an advertising company. Products fail to get maintained, they get upgrades th…

Any issues with Google domains? I switched to them when I saw that they were a tenth of the price of competition and haven’t had any issues.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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I have videos of recipes and comic shows in my Liked Music. You would think youtube Google had better AI to detect this kind of stuff. Makes think many of the videos being wrongly censored/demonetized on youtube may really be because of faulty AI detection of the content. I do enjoy the fact that I can get all those live video music available on Youtube and not on any other platform.

Their AI is optimized for revenue, which probably takes some annoyed people as marginal errors.

Yes, good point. But I don't see mixing recipes video in your music as something optimized for revenue as I don't see any ads but maybe it pumps the views of these recipes or something.

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Exactly this. Google Play Music was great because you could host your collection with them and mix it with their streaming library fairly seamlessly. Since the announcement of GPM's demise I haven't found a single other platform that fills this niche.

Apple Music comes with iTunes Match [1], which allows upload of up to 100k songs. It's a little wonky for edits of songs that are already available in the Apple Music library — because it would try to deduplicate instead of upload — but it's still good enough for my use. [1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204146

Can you stream Apple Music from a browser? That’s a key feature.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Apple Music comes with iTunes Match [1], which allows upload of up to 100k songs. It's a little wonky for edits of songs that are already available in the Apple Music library — because it would try to deduplicate instead of upload — but it's still good enough for my use. [1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204146

Can you stream Apple Music from a browser? That’s a key feature.

Yes. You can use most Apple/iCloud services (everything from Music to Pages) in your browser.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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I subscribed to Google Play Music All-Access for years and wouldn't have cancelled[1] if not for regional pricing making Spotify half the price. The music selection was far greater than Spotify and the like, I could upload and match my purchases elsewhere, and their radio algorithm was actually really good. (I sorely miss it after using Spotify's) But YouTube Music is just a mess. I migrated my library to YTM and my…

Yup yup. I tried. I really tried to like YouTube Music, but it is just not working. I sent multiple feedbacks, but things aren't improving nor have I heard back from them.

I am currently back to Google Music...! Sooo much better. I'm not sure what I will do after they shut it down for good. Probably resort back to last.fm for recommendation and hop to another streaming platform.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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post #146

I am so fucking glad I never stopped buying my music on CDs and ripping the tracks like a caveman. Why is it considered reasonable to rely on services and companies that we know we're going to outlive?

In the last few days, I've seen a lot of people getting angry at Spotify and (now) at Google Music. What I am surprised at is so few folks are talking about going back to physical media. Music CDs will take up physical space and might be more expensive upfront (though I doubt they'll be so in the long run). However, the upsides are huge. One, you own the content forever - even if you switch countries or want to pass…

Because it's tedious.

1. Music is a commodity, everything should be available everywhere all the time. I don't care about "owning" my music, I care about listening to music. 2. Quality is good enough on Spotify. I'm not even sure I can notice the difference between Spotify and a CD playing on the same system. And I don't want to spend time on ripping and tagging and sorting and storing music. 3. I have enough stuff.

Spoken as someone who spent an inordinate amount of time and money buying and ripping CD's back in the days. And downloading from torrent sites of course. My digital music collection was huge and in neat order. Threw it all away when Spotify came on the scene.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Apple Music comes with iTunes Match [1], which allows upload of up to 100k songs. It's a little wonky for edits of songs that are already available in the Apple Music library — because it would try to deduplicate instead of upload — but it's still good enough for my use. [1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204146

Can you stream Apple Music from a browser? That’s a key feature.

Yep.

https://music.apple.com

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