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Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by orthoxerox »

ehsankia wrote: post #179
patrickaljord wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have videos of recipes and comic shows in my Liked Music. You would think youtube Google had better AI to detect this kind of stuff. Makes think many of the videos being wrongly censored/demonetized on youtube may really be because of faulty AI detection of the content. I do enjoy the fact that I can get all those live video music available on Youtube and not on any other platform.

Even if could only get music, I still don't want meme songs like Gangnam Style and What does the Fox say as actual songs I listen to.

The whole idea that things I've liked are the things I would like to come back to is ridiculous.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by 6ak74rfy »

ohazi wrote: post #146

I am so fucking glad I never stopped buying my music on CDs and ripping the tracks like a caveman. Why is it considered reasonable to rely on services and companies that we know we're going to outlive?

In the last few days, I've seen a lot of people getting angry at Spotify and (now) at Google Music. What I am surprised at is so few folks are talking about going back to physical media.

Music CDs will take up physical space and might be more expensive upfront (though I doubt they'll be so in the long run). However, the upsides are huge. One, you own the content forever - even if you switch countries or want to pass it along to your children. Two, you can rip higher quality audio (such as FLAC as opposed to max 320 kbps from streaming services). Three, you get a physical artifact of the music you love (artwork and all).

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by homero »

echelon wrote: post #217
ElijahLynn wrote: post #93

And FWIW, the migration doesn't work. The "thumbs up" playlist goes into YT Music "Liked music" which includes all sorts of other YouTube "music-ish" videos that we have liked over the years and the order is all jacked up, plus mixed with all that other stuff. So your "Liked Music" is now, not what you intended. The migration was super botched by the product team because of this.

Figures it doesn't work. They don't care. To every Google employee reading this: your company sucks. Tell that to your manager. With the exception of Youtube, I will never use Google entertainment products again. No Stadia, no Google Play Movies. I don't know what their vision is for product, but whatever it is subtracts from the world. I was worried a decade ago when I saw music moving into the cloud. Now my fears a…

Anyone using Stadia is risking all their game purchases getting lost when it shuts down.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by pfortuny »

patrickaljord wrote: post #109
ElijahLynn wrote: post #93

And FWIW, the migration doesn't work. The "thumbs up" playlist goes into YT Music "Liked music" which includes all sorts of other YouTube "music-ish" videos that we have liked over the years and the order is all jacked up, plus mixed with all that other stuff. So your "Liked Music" is now, not what you intended. The migration was super botched by the product team because of this.

I have videos of recipes and comic shows in my Liked Music. You would think youtube Google had better AI to detect this kind of stuff. Makes think many of the videos being wrongly censored/demonetized on youtube may really be because of faulty AI detection of the content. I do enjoy the fact that I can get all those live video music available on Youtube and not on any other platform.

Their AI is optimized for revenue, which probably takes some annoyed people as marginal errors.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by moomin »

homero wrote: post #253
echelon wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Figures it doesn't work. They don't care. To every Google employee reading this: your company sucks. Tell that to your manager. With the exception of Youtube, I will never use Google entertainment products again. No Stadia, no Google Play Movies. I don't know what their vision is for product, but whatever it is subtracts from the world. I was worried a decade ago when I saw music moving into the cloud. Now my fears a…

Anyone using Stadia is risking all their game purchases getting lost when it shuts down.

The thing is: this isn’t even a fringe viewpoint. It’s pretty obvious that people are avoiding it at least in part because it’s from Google, and Google are never in it for the long haul.

They’re already getting proved right, as well, Stadia’s getting barely any updates or new games, no exclusives worth the candle. It’s really just a matter of time.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by fiblye »

homero wrote: post #253
echelon wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Figures it doesn't work. They don't care. To every Google employee reading this: your company sucks. Tell that to your manager. With the exception of Youtube, I will never use Google entertainment products again. No Stadia, no Google Play Movies. I don't know what their vision is for product, but whatever it is subtracts from the world. I was worried a decade ago when I saw music moving into the cloud. Now my fears a…

Anyone using Stadia is risking all their game purchases getting lost when it shuts down.

Is “risking” the right word here? It’s like saying jumping in a volcano has a risk of death.

It’s going to happen. It’s just a matter of how soon and painful it’ll be.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by gfxgirl »

pkulak wrote: post #221
01100011 wrote: post #202

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> I honestly don't know why Google's Product Team has any positive reputation at this point. They have a positive reputation? I've been a loyal Googler for about 20 years. Nexus, Pixel, Chromecasts, GMail, Fi, Android TV, Google Domains... I'm about done. It seems like every month they do something to make it more apparent that they're just an advertising company. Products fail to get maintained, they get upgrades th…

I'm the same way, except that photos is still amazing.

What features do you like of photos?

For me it seems more or less (mostly less?) than iPhoto though I'm not really an iPhoto user.

What I find frustrating is I'd like to name people (as in face recognition) but the UI for doing so is horrible. Instead of being optimized to let me tag 50 to 100 people it's design to do one person at a time in a tedious way where you pick one face from the list of faces which takes to another screen where you edit the name, then going to back to the list you've lost your place.

Further, there is no way to sort or set a priority on people so for example 8 of the top 20 people it shows are people I haven't interacted with in 10 to 15 years. I'd much rather it show people who are part of my life. Further, one of those 8 is an x. I have no ill will toward them but I don't really want them at the top of the list. And, there's no rhyme or reason who's on that top list. it's not a list by number of photos or most recent or anything that I can figure out.

Why is this important? Because if I can tag my photos I can search for photos of people. But since they make it hard to use it's like they don't want it to be used.

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Post by culturedsystems »

uryga wrote: post #38
bla3 wrote: post #3

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I think they rowed back on requiring a subscription for background play.

nope, just installed the app to try it out and it pauses and prompts you to pay up :( [android/europe, ymmv elsewhere maybe?]

I'm also on Android in Europe, with no YouTube Music subscription, and it lets me play music in the background, without ads, if it's either on the device or in the "Uploads" section (which is where it's put music I'd purchased on Google Play Music). So it looks like they haven't completely removed that functionality, although the interface for accessing it is significantly more annoying.

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Post by gfxgirl »

ohazi wrote: post #146

I am so fucking glad I never stopped buying my music on CDs and ripping the tracks like a caveman. Why is it considered reasonable to rely on services and companies that we know we're going to outlive?

I agree with to you a point but how am I supposed to find new music to buy without some kind of radio/recommendation system. FM radio certainly doesn't play the type of music I like.

I'm thinking I'll buy some of the songs I had marked in Google Play Music. I'm not sure I'll buy all of them or even if I can.

Also I haven't owned a CD player that connects to a computer in 7 years. Even the gamer PC I just built 2 months ago I didn't put a drive in it.

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