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YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by truncate »

stingraycharles wrote: post #283
larrik wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that copyrighted works were included in the readme shows it was intended for that use, and the RIAA complaint will likely stand up to any legal scrutiny. Just because it can be used for legit purposes too won't matter in the slightest. I mean, Napster could have been used for legal means as well, and it got destroyed in court. The only chance tools like this have legally is when infringement is an "unintende…

Just to add a data point, but back when I still was working for a video distribution startup, we offered our customers the ability to directly import their video inventory from YouTube. They were the owners of the videos, it was just a convenient (and very popular!) feature for them to let us handle this import. We used YouTube-dl for this, of course. No way we could have done this easily without it. We imported hund…

I remember using youtube-dl back 8 years or so ago when I was an undergrad in India to download MIT OCW lectures (and others e.g. SICP vidoes, Coursera), because bandwidth was limited, download was capped, and 3G was too expensive. I could watch these videos anywhere, and whenever I wanted. And I'm pretty sure non of those videos had (or even have) ads.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by names_are_hard »

Some time in the last few hours the devs have updated their site (https://youtube-dl.org/) with a notice about the takedown and removed the broken github links. You can now download the latest executables again. I'm looking forward to seeing their new home.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by izacus »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #70
molmalo wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking the same thing: The next step following this line of thinking would be trying to ban all torrent clients, because they CAN be used to download copyrighted material. This is crazy.

Why stop with torrent clients? They should ban all browsers, because they CAN be used to download copyrighted materials!

> Why stop with torrent clients? They should ban all browsers, because they CAN be used to download copyrighted materials!

We're talking about an industry that normalized rootkit DRM and persuaded pretty much all hardware manufacturers to implement expensive encrypted pipelines to lock you out from trying to even take a glimpse of content playing.

After a few years of working near this industry I really cannot overestimate how rentseeking and scummy every single part of it is. They will abuse you without a second thought if there's a cent to be made.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by avodonosov »

avodonosov wrote: post #710
slim wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's already decentralized. now developers just need to setup a different remote. as in git remote add whatever. the problem is how to publish the software.

What will server as the 'whatever'? I'm speaking exactly about decentralized publishing. Where the repository is mirrored in content addressed network, so there is no specific location(s) to take down. (I realize it is problematic, because even with content addressed mirroring, the people who actually host the replicas of the content, can be accused of distributing prohibited content, but still it's more difficult to…

Just now on the HN front page:

GitTorrent: A Decentralized GitHub (2015) (printf.net): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24874994

While in the current topic my comment adout decentralization is downvoted to the bottom of the multi page comment thread.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by rhabarba »

kzrdude wrote: post #878
rhabarba wrote: post #872

Ahh, centralized version control. Such a good idea.

Anyone working on ytdl will have a full copy of the history at home, undisturbed, so distribution is working as it should. There is no single point of failure.

Then why does the takedown matter? See, the infrastructure still revolves around one master repository.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by Griffinsauce »

nexuist wrote: post #624
blazespin wrote: post #575

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just used windows-g to record upside down music video. Seems to work fine. mp4 file is in my captures video. Sound is great. How is that acceptable and this isn't? btw, Popcorn time is a bit different situation. I would say bit torrent is more the problem, or at least the people who upload pirated content. What is odd though is that it's the RIAA filing suit here and not google. Google has a real complaint, RIAA ce…

> How is that acceptable and this isn't? Because Microsoft can afford lawyers to fight this, and random GitHub projects can't. It's an intimidation tactic.

It's copyright terrorism.

The aim is fear.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by DoingIsLearning »

sjy wrote: post #784
nickjj wrote: post #114

Things like this make no sense from the notice: > The clear purpose of this source code is to (i) circumvent the technological protection measures used by authorized streaming services such as YouTube Using this logic then OBS or any desktop recording tool is also violating the same measures because you could press record while a Youtube video is playing and wind up with your own locally recorded copy of the video. S…

You seem to be reading “the purpose of this source code is to circumvent technological protection measures” as though it means “this source code can be used to circumvent technological protection measures.” There is a difference.

They would have to prove that Youtube's lack of a download feature is a "technological protection measure" against copyright infringement.

A lack of a feature can be rationalized in any direction. Ultimately not enabling you to download increases youtube's revenues because of people rewatching the same videos online.

Unless Youtube states explicitly that this lack of a download feature is for the purpose of copyright infringement then they can pipe it and stop disrupting everyone outside the US.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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stjohnswarts wrote: post #787
andy_ppp wrote: post #486

I find this amazing, essentially Google has been scraping every piece of content they can get their hands on, when a few individuals decide to get data, that wasn’t even created by YouTube, they get take down notices. The more I think about it hypocrisy should be a defence against these things.

This isn't google, it's the RIAA.

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