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YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is a knife in violation of the criminal justice system because some people use it to kill and therefore no one can use it anywhere, ever? I mean, guns are banned in many countries using precisely the same reasoning. And I might totally be wrong about this but I heard that in the UK you need to be over 18 to buy even just kitchen knives.

There's some subtlety, but basically, yes: https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives

Oh I love the specifics of that page. Did a lot of people try to walk around with kusari-gamas?

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#282
Git mirror: https://code.hackerspace.pl/q3k/youtube-dl

This is master on 4eda10499e8db831167062b0e0dbc7d10d34c1f9, retrieved from gitee.com, and is the last known hash from Google Webcache [1].

Clone, verify and rehost.

[1] - https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:o7ilf8...

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Note that RIAA is making this takedown because the software CAN be used to download copyrighted music and videos, and it uses examples in the ~~README~~(unit tests, see correction[1]) as an example of that: > We also note that the source code prominently includes as sample uses of the source code the downloading of copies of our members’ copyrighted sound recordings and music videos, as noted in Exhibit A hereto. For…

The fact that copyrighted works were included in the readme shows it was intended for that use, and the RIAA complaint will likely stand up to any legal scrutiny. Just because it can be used for legit purposes too won't matter in the slightest. I mean, Napster could have been used for legal means as well, and it got destroyed in court. The only chance tools like this have legally is when infringement is an "unintende…

Just to add a data point, but back when I still was working for a video distribution startup, we offered our customers the ability to directly import their video inventory from YouTube. They were the owners of the videos, it was just a convenient (and very popular!) feature for them to let us handle this import.

We used YouTube-dl for this, of course. No way we could have done this easily without it. We imported hundreds of thousands of videos like this.

I suspect there are many more legitimate uses of YouTube-dl than you would expect.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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post #4

Note that RIAA is making this takedown because the software CAN be used to download copyrighted music and videos, and it uses examples in the ~~README~~(unit tests, see correction[1]) as an example of that: > We also note that the source code prominently includes as sample uses of the source code the downloading of copies of our members’ copyrighted sound recordings and music videos, as noted in Exhibit A hereto. For…

That's some prime rate bullshit. Like saying since I could use Linux to download copyrighted materials, and there are guides around which tell how to do so, Linux should be removed from the Internet.

Also a good reminder - never trust a third party to host your files, always have a backup. And hosting your infrastructure on Github means anybody who wants it can take it down with a single letter.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#286
Lesson learned: always use Creative Commons licensed data to demo your multimedia tools. Else people get the wrong idea.

Some examples for youtube-dl might be:

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqz-KE-bpKQ Big buck bunny

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ Sintel

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhWc3b3KhnY Spring

In fact, youtube actually allows you to filter by CC, so there's never a reason not to!

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#287

Isn't there a 1st-amendment exception for code? The code isn't violating any copyright.

I remember books (with the code inside) being used as a workaround for cryptography export controls. I wonder if the same could apply here ( if this notice holds up to begin with), either as a book with code, or as a book with instructions in English language that are equivalent to what the code does.

This is a very underrated workaround. I had no idea this was used.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#288
Setting aside the evils of the DMCA itself:

Seems clearly that if youtube authorizes downloads, then people shouldn't put things on youtube they don't want downloaded?

The takedown notices should be going to youtube. But of course they want to use youtube to promote themselves.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#289

It is a bit of a tough question. How would I feel about someone borrowing a book from a library and then photocopying it to keep a local copy? If the intent was to re-distribute then I would not feel comfortable allowing it. However, if the proposed remedy was to ban personal ownership of photocopiers I would not even consider that a valid approach. But would I expect I could keep my own photocopied version instead o…

Aren't books kinda a special case ? Given all the past (and even current!) cases of censorship and book burning, shouldn't we strive to never allow that ever again and to protects books for future generations ?

Finally we have a way to preserve books in perfect form forever digitally yet people somehow try to shackle this new technology with paper book technology limitations. The same limitations that coat us so much ideas, knowledge and stories as books would burn, rot or turn to dust.

Frankly any form of technology trying to prevent digital book distribution and archiving really is a digital equivalent of the inquisition book burning (or helping make that happen again).

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