Ok, so who's building a distributed, cryptographic, uncensorable version of GitHub?
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YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA
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#212Great. Alternatives to github please.
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#213Curious if anyone with legal expertise knows if this has legs? They say: > The clear purpose of this source code is to (i) circumvent the technological protection measures used by authorized streaming services such as YouTube, and (ii) reproduce and distribute music videos and sound recordings owned by our member companies without authorization for such use. But the "circumventing" is still accessing a stream the use…
Also, does the fact that YouTube doesn't supply a download feature constitute a "technical protection measure"? From the RIAA's point of view, it works to their benefit that a download link doesn't exist, and it may be something they like, but that doesn't mean that's why. It could just as easily be that a download feature doesn't exist because YouTube wants you to keep returning to their site if you want to rewatch…
Youtube does have a "download" feature in YouTube studio. Where you can download a heavily compressed version of any video you've uploaded. But only videos you've uploaded.
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#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be fair, more like "Harry Potter Copier Word".
To be fair , more like Microsoft® Office® OneNote™; it has a camera feature and an automatic OCR feature and a “copy text from image” convenience feature.
Also, using copying an entire Harry Potter book as the basic tutorial.
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#215While its good to get a backup of the source code, youtube-dl is one of those projects that quickly becomes useless as Google mixes stuff around within YouTube, which they like to do. Without an active developer base, the project will quickly become less and less effective, which is one of the big concerns IMO about this lawsuit.
What if collaboration on opensource projects (i.e. hosting, issues and their comments) was decentralized instead of relying on a central entity like Github? That would keep the developer base active and make DMCA takedowns ineffective.
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#216How can a program be in violation of DMCA? Is a knife in violation of the criminal justice system because some people use it to kill and therefore no one can use it anywhere, ever? How ridiculous.
> Is a knife in violation of the criminal justice system because some people use it to kill and therefore no one can use it anywhere, ever? I mean, guns are banned in many countries using precisely the same reasoning. And I might totally be wrong about this but I heard that in the UK you need to be over 18 to buy even just kitchen knives.
There's some subtlety, but basically, yes:
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#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
cURL could be used to download pornography. Think of the children!
It could download instructions and coordinating communication for drug manufacturing, money laundering, and terrorism! Add them to pædo porn and you have the Four Horsemen of the Infopocalypse! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Infocalyp...
And people could use human brains to store that information. We need read/write access to your mind just to be safe!
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
DMCA is a bad law, but you'd have a harder time arguing a general purpose web browser meets any of the following conditions: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201 (2)No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that— (A)is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a techn…
You could probably scratch out A and B by emphasizing how useful youtube-dl is for grabbing local copies of MIT licensed university lectures. C is harder, given the README.md examples.
But what DRM "technological measure" is being circumvented?
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#220> We also note that the source code prominently includes as sample uses of the source code the downloading of copies of our members’ copyrighted sound recordings and music videos, as noted in Exhibit A hereto. For example, as shown on Exhibit A, the source code expressly suggests its use to copy and/or distribute the following copyrighted works owned by our member companies IMHO this wasn't the best move, I mean... t…
Does anyone have a local copy of the repo? I’m curious when that particular mention was merged into the repo.
Thought - It’s possible that someone in association with the RIAA made a code contribution that included that change for the purpose of creating evidence to file a DMCA.