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YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by zxcvbn4038 »

This should be about impossible to enforce? Every developer and everyone who has ever cloned the repo has the complete source tree with commits. I can think of a list of countries where United States laws are not a concern, I imagine that shortly this will be one of the most distributed repositories ever.

It also shows again that while free services like Github are convenient, and truthfully their interface is the one to beat, it is better to use them as a mirror of something you self host then the primary.

Some options: (I prefer gitea - easiest to install and maintain, very active development community, single binary, written in Go)

https://gitea.com/

https://gogs.io/

https://about.gitlab.com/install/

https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-on-the-Server-GitWeb

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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molmalo wrote: post #37
jchw wrote: post #4

Note that RIAA is making this takedown because the software CAN be used to download copyrighted music and videos, and it uses examples in the ~~README~~(unit tests, see correction[1]) as an example of that: > We also note that the source code prominently includes as sample uses of the source code the downloading of copies of our members’ copyrighted sound recordings and music videos, as noted in Exhibit A hereto. For…

I was thinking the same thing: The next step following this line of thinking would be trying to ban all torrent clients, because they CAN be used to download copyrighted material. This is crazy.

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Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by 15155 »

aidenn0 wrote: post #251
nickjj wrote: post #114

Things like this make no sense from the notice: > The clear purpose of this source code is to (i) circumvent the technological protection measures used by authorized streaming services such as YouTube Using this logic then OBS or any desktop recording tool is also violating the same measures because you could press record while a Youtube video is playing and wind up with your own locally recorded copy of the video. S…

It's not because OBS does not contain any code specific to circumventing streaming services protection measures. youtube-dl does contain code specific to such circumvention.

There's no statute and zero precedent in case law in the aforementioned venue that comes to this conclusion.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by LordDragonfang »

hiisukun wrote: post #198
jchw wrote: post #4

Note that RIAA is making this takedown because the software CAN be used to download copyrighted music and videos, and it uses examples in the ~~README~~(unit tests, see correction[1]) as an example of that: > We also note that the source code prominently includes as sample uses of the source code the downloading of copies of our members’ copyrighted sound recordings and music videos, as noted in Exhibit A hereto. For…

I wonder what commit added those three listed examples (from three different music companies) to the README, and when. They're the worrying component as they show intent. In a dark universe timeline somewhere, the pull request for adding them to the README came from an RIAA employee.

A comment somewhere else pointed out that the listed examples aren't listed in the README, but rather as part of the unit tests.

It's confusing, because the letter calls it "the source code", which is not what anyone who knew what they were talking about would usually call it.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by arno1 »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #68
viro wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ok so I might just be stupid but how does that link let me clone the repo?.....

https://web.archive.org/web/20201018130325/https://codeload.... is a ZIP containing the repo.

It doesn't contain git commit history. Clone a fresh mirror off here https://gitea.eponym.info/Mirrors/youtube-dl.git

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by read_if_gay_ »

goodcanadian wrote: post #216
read_if_gay_ wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is a knife in violation of the criminal justice system because some people use it to kill and therefore no one can use it anywhere, ever? I mean, guns are banned in many countries using precisely the same reasoning. And I might totally be wrong about this but I heard that in the UK you need to be over 18 to buy even just kitchen knives.

There's some subtlety, but basically, yes: https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives

> It’s illegal to [...] carry a knife in public without good reason, unless it has a folding blade with a cutting edge 3 inches long or less

> The maximum penalty for an adult carrying a knife is 4 years in prison and an unlimited fine. You’ll get a prison sentence if you’re convicted of carrying a knife more than once.

This blows my mind a little bit. I have a Swiss Army knife (among a ton of other things) in a waistbag that I carry most places I go. It proved very useful a few times, but other than "in case I need it" I don't have a particular reason I carry it. It seems really dystopian to me that in the UK, I could get 4 years in prison for that.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by throwaway17_17 »

bawolff wrote: post #115
jchw wrote: post #4

Note that RIAA is making this takedown because the software CAN be used to download copyrighted music and videos, and it uses examples in the ~~README~~(unit tests, see correction[1]) as an example of that: > We also note that the source code prominently includes as sample uses of the source code the downloading of copies of our members’ copyrighted sound recordings and music videos, as noted in Exhibit A hereto. For…

Seems like putting that in the readme was pretty stupid. Intent matters in legal things, making the example infringing undermines the argument that the tool is good and some people are just bad. > This feels like DeCSS all over again. I think napster would be the better comparision (and especially napster compared to vcrs)

I don’t see how Napster is more applicable than vcrs. YouTube in this case is the broadcaster, putting content out to a general viewing public, ytdl is a recording device. For Napster to work, YouTube has to be imputes with illegally providing the copy and ytdl has to be the means to facilitate the copies transport.
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