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YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by aidenn0 »

Conan_Kudo wrote: post #39

This is the first time I've read a DMCA notice that also references EU Directives and German law too (admittedly it's a thin note saying it's materially equivalent to U.S.C.). Is that even meaningful in a DMCA takedown notice?

The youtube cipher has probably not been tested in US courts as an "effective measure" so they are demonstrating that other reasonable courts, interpreting a materially equivalent statute have agreed it was an effective measure.

You see similar things with state laws. If say Wisconsin and California have a very similar statute, and Wisconsin has precedent but California does not, the Wisconsin precedent is not binding, but is persuasive for a judge in California.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by romanoderoma »

marcinzm wrote: post #163
kzrdude wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should it stand up to legal scrutiny though? What does it matter if I play the beatles on youtube by watching in a web browser or watching an .mp4 file that I just downloaded? It's functionally the same.

The former gives money to the original content owner for every listen while the latter does not. Which is why you're able to listen to it on youtube without having to personally pay someone.

It could but probably doesn't

One could argue that YouTube success is mostly about unlimited access to illegal copyrighted material uploaded by some unknown person in some unknown part of the world

After all the thing it's already on YouTube and on my HD after I watched it

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by oefrha »

crazygringo wrote: post #204
jordigh wrote: post #86

I'm very scared by this. youtube-dl needs somewhat frequent updates as Google moves the youtube codebase around. I'm worried that the RIAA's next move, now that it's starting to get inconvenient to get youtube-dl, will be to make Youtube change in some way to make existing copies of youtube-dl no longer work. youtube-dl has been my primary way of getting videos since I learned about it. If the RIAA manages to kill it…

I'm actually curious, when you run "youtube-dl --update" where does it update from? What domain? Trying it now results in: ERROR: can't find the current version. Please try again later. I'm unclear if it had always updated itself from GitHub or elsewhere.

  $ rg 'UPDATE_URL|VERSION_URL'
  youtube_dl/update.py
  35:    UPDATE_URL = 'https://yt-dl.org/update/'
  36:    VERSION_URL = UPDATE_URL + 'LATEST_VERSION'
  37:    JSON_URL = UPDATE_URL + 'versions.json'
  46:        newversion =  opener.open(VERSION_URL).read().decode('utf-8').strip()

  $ curl -IL https://yt-dl.org/update/LATEST_VERSION
  HTTP/1.1 302 Found
  Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 20:15:04 GMT
  Server: Apache/2.2.15 (CentOS)
  Location: https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/update/LATEST_VERSION
  Connection: close
  Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

  HTTP/2 404
  content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8
  server: GitHub.com
  etag: "5f777b31-239b"
  content-security-policy: default-src 'none'; style-src 'unsafe-inline'; img-src data:; connect-src 'self'
  x-github-request-id: 170E:2B71:1A0B5DC:1B8177E:5F933973
  accept-ranges: bytes
  date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 20:15:04 GMT
  via: 1.1 varnish
  age: 85
  x-served-by: cache-hnd18722-HND
  x-cache: HIT
  x-cache-hits: 1
  x-timer: S1603484104.479172,VS0,VE0
  vary: Accept-Encoding
  x-fastly-request-id: a7128dab84232184052e51f07eb6263f5c88ab7e
  content-length: 9115

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by mmaunder »

Who is the defendant here? Do they have resources to take this to court? If not, is there any movement on raising a legal defense fund and finding competent counsel? Anyone from the ACLU team here, and interested in weighing in or at least bringing this to your leadership for consideration?

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by reggieband »

It is a bit of a tough question. How would I feel about someone borrowing a book from a library and then photocopying it to keep a local copy? If the intent was to re-distribute then I would not feel comfortable allowing it. However, if the proposed remedy was to ban personal ownership of photocopiers I would not even consider that a valid approach. But would I expect I could keep my own photocopied version instead of paying retail price for the book? And what if a purpose built photocopier was designed and marketed for the express purpose of photocopying books from the library?

My personal feeling, and obviously not a legal opinion or even morally infallible in any sense, is that storing a local copy of digital content that has been consumed should be allowed. Where it becomes grey (or my feeling tends towards disallowing) is if I share or re-broadcast that content in any form.

That is, I feel the DMCA is in the wrong here. Unless they can prove intent to re-distribute it feels wrong that they can ban my ability to maintain a copy for myself. I believe it ought to be a right to store such content locally.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by RealStickman_ »

Made a torrent of the latest version from pypi. Hope it works. magnet:?xt=urn:btih:da76788b4d05583f8a3a7ed60f136c5647daa113&dn=youtube%5Fdl-2020.9.20.tar.gz&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.bittorrent.am%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fopen.acgtracker.com%3A1096%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fretracker.krs-ix.ru%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.com%3A2710%2Fannounce

Edit: NVM. Getting nowhere with setting that up.

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