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You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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I think in the latest iteration of Media Encoder it can no longer accept MKV containers.... I'm wondering if it was also tied to some license issue.

Huh, but MKV is Matroska, and it's a free-to-use open standard...

Don't expect a non-free software company to understand the difference between a media container and bitstream codec.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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I don't get this. I've used GIMP and Phptoshop and the UI differences are trivial.

I want to like it, but GIMP is almost unusable for me. Really hard to do even basics, and have to spend a lot of time googling how to do what I want to do.

You wouldn't expect Photoshop to be immediately usable for a newbie either. I've always been completely stumped by Photoshop, but I haven't spent enough time in it to expect otherwise.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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There are special no-activation-required versions of the entire CS2 and CS3 product line! Adobe killed the product activation servers for CS2 products in 2013, and for CS3 products in 2017. For CS2, they offered Activation-free replacement installers and generic serial numbers on their support page. This resulted in a bunch of press[0] about it being a /!\ omg completely free Creative Suite /!\, so for CS3's 2017 shu…

> For CS2, they offered Activation-free replacement installers and generic serial numbers on their support page. This is the only reasonable way it should be done with old software. > This resulted in a bunch of press about it being a omg completely free Creative Suite Just write it in bold - something like "it's not free, you are only eligible if you have purchased a license". Whoever wants to pirate will pirate any…

We're talking about CS4 here: Flash was basically THE way to build UI back then. I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of the motivating factors for Adobe buying out Macromedia (aside from just quashing potential competition from Macromedia Studio).

Hell, a lot of high-budget video games around the same time used a little thing called Autodesk Scaleform. That's basically Autodesk's reimplementation of Flash Player (Adobe was too short-sighted to pursue this market) which game developers could quite easily license and embed into their games.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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I am getting through grad school using photopea.com for all raster needs. For vector graphics I just use python- the figures are reproducible now in addition to my research results.

Inkscape is reasonable for grad school vector needs if you haven’t stumbled upon it yet.

I have, but personally I feel more comfortable manipulating figures with code. YMMV.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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I want to like it, but GIMP is almost unusable for me. Really hard to do even basics, and have to spend a lot of time googling how to do what I want to do.

You wouldn't expect Photoshop to be immediately usable for a newbie either. I've always been completely stumped by Photoshop, but I haven't spent enough time in it to expect otherwise.

True, but I've been using GIMP a long time - more than a decade. Used it for years longer and years before I used Adobe CS. Taken a number of tutorials on it. Will always be super clunky.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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In the last month I've returned two pieces of Adobe software and canceled a yearly subscription. I've been seeing ads for the AI features in photoshop all over twitter this week. It's pretty clear what their business strategy is -- just keep working on the tech and assume people will buy their software because it's the only one with the hot tech thing. It's ironic that for a company that caters to designers, artists…

what alternative is there for After Effects?

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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You wouldn't expect Photoshop to be immediately usable for a newbie either. I've always been completely stumped by Photoshop, but I haven't spent enough time in it to expect otherwise.

True, but I've been using GIMP a long time - more than a decade. Used it for years longer and years before I used Adobe CS. Taken a number of tutorials on it. Will always be super clunky.

All I really want is Fireworks. Never found a true replacement for it.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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I seriously think this was the last straw for Adobe and I. I just wanted to install an older version of an app (that I've paid for!) on an older computer. I've literally spent thousands of dollars on software that I can no longer use for no reason other than that they will no longer allow me to. The worst part seems to be that they've just killed links and information about this - so you have people presuming they ca…

Just use a pirated copy of the software you own. There are plenty of versions out there that don't require any activation, and for the most part, just work. As long as you own a legal copy, I can't see owning a cracked one as being illegal. Definitely not unethical.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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There should be a choice: either the legal system protects your IP (copyright), or you do (DRM). You shouldn't get the benefits of both approaches, because they are mutually exclusive. Material that is protected with DRM has effectively been stolen from the future public domain. At the very least, key escrow should be required before copyright protection is granted.

This is like arguing that front doors shouldn't have locks because burglary is illegal. Legal status and practical enforcement are unrelated issues. You seem to be attempting to conflate them because you just don't like the idea of copyright. But that's a different issue. In fact it's perfectly consistent to enforce copyright through a combination of DRM and legal challenges. Legally copyright is the default. Nothing…

In 100 years from now, you will have software that is nominally in the public domain, but cannot legally be used, because all practically available copies will have DRM on it. The prohibitions of the DMCA's anticircumvention provisions do not merely prohibit you from breaking DRM on a copyrighted work. If that was the case, then this wouldn't be a problem: once the work falls into the public domain the DRM wrapping would have no legal force. However, the DMCA also prohibits making or distributing tools capable of breaking DRM. That means that as long as there's even a single copyrighted work protected by some DRM scheme, then you can't break DRM on otherwise uncopyrighted works.

This is sort of like living in a world where burgling old homes is perfectly legal, but lockpicks are also illegal, and so people who always locked their homes have basically opted out of the intent of the law.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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There should be a choice: either the legal system protects your IP (copyright), or you do (DRM). You shouldn't get the benefits of both approaches, because they are mutually exclusive. Material that is protected with DRM has effectively been stolen from the future public domain. At the very least, key escrow should be required before copyright protection is granted.

This is like arguing that front doors shouldn't have locks because burglary is illegal. Legal status and practical enforcement are unrelated issues. You seem to be attempting to conflate them because you just don't like the idea of copyright. But that's a different issue. In fact it's perfectly consistent to enforce copyright through a combination of DRM and legal challenges. Legally copyright is the default. Nothing…

It's more like saying that the police shouldn't protect your house if you didn't pay your property tax bill.

The only legal basis for copyright existing in the US is to provide incentives for creators to enrich the public domain. Any other basis is unconstitutional.

With DRM, creators are failing to live up to their end of the bargain.

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