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You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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What would you think it would cost per year? What $ amount? What would be the break down? Legacy software, security and the constant upgrades, a manager, HR, customer support. Training your all your call centres to know about it and who to re-direct issues to.

> What would you think it would cost per year? The real cost is the people who don't go and subscribe to Adobe CC because they still have a totally functional release of CS3. Once their old machines die, they'll be forced to become a renter.

> Once their old machines die, they'll be forced to become a renter.

Or they'll look into alternatives, for which there are many available avenues.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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You can probably get a full refund in Australia, as the product is no longer fit for purpose. I'm not sure how easy it would be to get the money though.

Really? Australia mandates a 12+ year warranty?

There is no time limit in law.

If its a physical good, it is expected that it degrades over time, so you can't take, say, your washing machine back after that period of time and demand your money back.

Further, the law doesn't dictate that updates are required, or anything like that, so if CS3 doesn't work on Windows 10, thats not Adobe's fault. However, if you can show that it no longer works on a system it used to work on, then the product is not fit for purpose.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Really? Australia mandates a 12+ year warranty?

There is no time limit in law. If its a physical good, it is expected that it degrades over time, so you can't take, say, your washing machine back after that period of time and demand your money back. Further, the law doesn't dictate that updates are required, or anything like that, so if CS3 doesn't work on Windows 10, thats not Adobe's fault. However, if you can show that it no longer works on a system it used to…

I should also add, that I don't know how all that bull "you aren't buying a product, you are buying a license" stuff plays into it. It might render what I've just said as wrong the case of software.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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There are special no-activation-required versions of the entire CS2 and CS3 product line! Adobe killed the product activation servers for CS2 products in 2013, and for CS3 products in 2017. For CS2, they offered Activation-free replacement installers and generic serial numbers on their support page. This resulted in a bunch of press[0] about it being a /!\ omg completely free Creative Suite /!\, so for CS3's 2017 shu…

I believe part of this is because Dolby is suing Adobe, saying they mandate certain pricing requirements in the license agreements, and so Adobe has responded by pulling old versions of their software with support for Dolby file formats.

[0] https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6002319/Dolbyvsad...

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Just swap "Adobe cs2" for a car so it gets a lot funnier >>Sir, you are no longer allowed to use your car >But I paid for it! It's my car! >>Our aging servers had to be retired >Can't you just turn off the checking so it won't cost you anything and I can keep using my car? >>No sir, without the checking people would start pirating the car > But you don't even sell this car anymore! So much so you don't even want to k…

Well said. This will happen soon. Recently I Came across some Honda car ad that mentioned "free subscription to blahblah app for xyz years". That's the step-1 towards conditioning us into accepting that "car features will stop working in xyz years"

Well, they’ve offered that kind of deal with OnStar for about 20 years so it must be a really slow slide down that slope.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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$600 a year isn't particularly expensive (that's for Creative Cloud). Roughly $0.30 an hour vs whatever wage is being paid to click the buttons. It's not cheap , but it's not something businesses are going to balk at either. They are showing healthy growth in revenue: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ADBE/financials?p=ADBE So apparently lots of their users are not concerned about their change to the pricing model and…

It's cheap for professional use, but it's very expensive for amateurs and occasional users. I was using Lightroom to manage my catalogue of photos. I'd open up Photoshop and Lightroom maybe a dozen times a year. It was nice to have them available but they were effectively costing me $20 each use. When Adobe products were an upfront payment I could choose to buy a product and keep it through multiple release cycles, w…

What did you switch to from Lightroom?

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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https://www.gimp.org https://krita.org/en If you donate anything near what you would have paid for Adobe, then these projects will be awash in resources.

That's a really interesting assertion. I have a feeling you could throw arbitrary amount of money at GIMP and it will still be almost useless.

> awash in resources

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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IANAL, it is now abandonware and can be legally cracked (legislation past year or two).

I’m also not a lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that’s not a thing, at least in the US. Downloading/distributing abandonware is still piracy, it’s just much less likely anyone will care.

No, the dumb legal protections against actually cracking it go away.

A typical crack is likely just a few bytes to change. Maybe in multiple places.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

#189
post #49

There are special no-activation-required versions of the entire CS2 and CS3 product line! Adobe killed the product activation servers for CS2 products in 2013, and for CS3 products in 2017. For CS2, they offered Activation-free replacement installers and generic serial numbers on their support page. This resulted in a bunch of press[0] about it being a /!\ omg completely free Creative Suite /!\, so for CS3's 2017 shu…

I believe part of this is because Dolby is suing Adobe, saying they mandate certain pricing requirements in the license agreements, and so Adobe has responded by pulling old versions of their software with support for Dolby file formats. [0] https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6002319/Dolbyvsad...

I think in the latest iteration of Media Encoder it can no longer accept MKV containers.... I'm wondering if it was also tied to some license issue.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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That was an excellent summary of Adobe's software giveaway. Are you sure that the replacement serial numbers are individualized ? When I tried googling, some of my replacement serial numbers are found on the web, some aren't. This seems to suggest that they are not individualized -- at least for some product & platform combinations. My own theory about the motivation of the original giveaway is that they lost the abi…

> But are you sure that the replacement serial numbers are individualized? Just an assumption because I have two legit OS X CS3 Master Collection serials, got two different replacement offline serials for them, and those serials don't work for the Windows version just like the originals didn't v(._. )v

I believe for the CS2 versions they released the mac serials were also different from the windows versions, and each product had its own serial.
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