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You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by swiley »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #144
dylan604 wrote: post #129

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What version of OSX was Lion? Snow Leopard 10.6 was the last one for the original cheese graters, and I know plenty of people running those and Final Cut 7 systems. It ain't broke, so they ain't fixin'. It's older SD tape based work flows that just ingest content from tape all day long, and then places it on the SAN for others workflows.

Lion is 10.7, one after Snow Leopard. I’m not sure why you’d run 10.7 instead of either 10.6 or 10.8 (or 10.9) btw. Lion is buggier than the adjacent releases (which are really solid).

Lion was the last version of OSX that I ran. After having my hard drive corrupted twice by it I gave up and put Debian on my macbook.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by bambax »

prox wrote: post #191
interestica wrote: post #76

I seriously think this was the last straw for Adobe and I. I just wanted to install an older version of an app (that I've paid for!) on an older computer. I've literally spent thousands of dollars on software that I can no longer use for no reason other than that they will no longer allow me to. The worst part seems to be that they've just killed links and information about this - so you have people presuming they ca…

I switched to Affinity completely, and I also slowly see some people in the industry change. And for video, DaVinci Resolve. There might be cases were you’re tied to CS, but the bulk of the work can be done in these apps.

Another very happy user of Affinity products here!

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by skohan »

thinkingemote wrote: post #269
ed25519FUUU wrote: post #195

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I tried to use gimp and I really wanted to like it, but I can’t. It’s clumsy and looks like death. I’d rather pay for something more polished.

Most Mac users just want something that works, open source.and freedom is not important

I'm a huge fan of FOSS, but open source products also have to stand on their own merits. The best way for FOSS to succeed is for FOSS products to be as good or better than closed alternatives. Otherwise they will always be relegated to a small audience of a few die-hards.

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Post by bregma »

jeffbee wrote: post #167
hardwaresofton wrote: post #166

https://www.gimp.org https://krita.org/en If you donate anything near what you would have paid for Adobe, then these projects will be awash in resources.

That's a really interesting assertion. I have a feeling you could throw arbitrary amount of money at GIMP and it will still be almost useless.

You can lift the suspension and cut off the top but a Cadillac is never going to be a Jeep.

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Post by stuaxo »

jeffbee wrote: post #167
hardwaresofton wrote: post #166

https://www.gimp.org https://krita.org/en If you donate anything near what you would have paid for Adobe, then these projects will be awash in resources.

That's a really interesting assertion. I have a feeling you could throw arbitrary amount of money at GIMP and it will still be almost useless.

They don't have many developers and they have been undertaking work to sort out the fundamental tech, to sort out age-old bugbears.

In the meantime, the team from ZeMarmot have been making concrete changes in features and UI, with a funding level, that I certainly couldn't live off.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if they were funded to the level of just one developers salary.

Here's whats left before GIMP 3 can be released https://www.patreon.com/posts/40087754

Getting the Gtk 3 version out should be a boost, there is way less between Gtk3 and the upcoming 4 too so the way ahead is good.

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Post by gspr »

cheeze wrote: post #107
canistel wrote: post #83

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My notions might be outdated, but doesn't GIMP still lack CMYK support, which is sort of the default in the printing world?

GIMP is great for a lot of stuff, but it's like comparing the usability of FreeBSD to ios

You mean it's far more usable for a lot of tasks?

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Post by claudeganon »

noobermin wrote: post #236
Grakel wrote: post #73

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Photopea.com is exactly like photoshop, it's free, web based or download!

I mean this is the same trap, one day the website won't be around, then what will you do?

It can be run offline. I’m sure there are already archives of the whole thing floating around.

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Post by laurentb »

porker wrote: post #295
laurentb wrote: post #270

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have you looked at foxitPDF ? this is a comparison table from Foxit's site against Acrobat Pro: https://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf-editor/adobe-acrobat-alter... (not associated with Foxit in any way shape or form nor a user)

Thanks, first time I'd heard of it. Looks a good match.

another one to look at is Nitro as well (just looked for an alternative based on Silhouette's comment below). here's a link to G2 for comparisons: https://www.g2.com/products/foxit-phantompdf/competitors/alt...

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Post by 8fingerlouie »

pfranz wrote: post #223
potency wrote: post #128

> The aging activation servers for those apps had to be retired. Oh come on. Surely a company with the resources of Adobe can figure out a way to keep an activation server running. In fact I'll bet you could find one competent sysadmin to keep it running indefinitely. I hate when companies spew out obvious utter B.S. like this.

A lot of game studios release a final patch removing DRM. That would have been nice.

But that wouldn't achieve the ultimate goal though. How else will you get the few leftover customers that has resisted switching to a subscription based model to switch ?

Adobe is business, and it's all about revenue. "Dead" products don't make any money, so there's no business case in keeping them around.

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Post by Silhouette »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #320
Silhouette wrote: post #305

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As ever, this would be a more compelling argument if the state that granted copyright protections also provided meaningful enforcement. Setting copyright up in a way that often makes it prohibitively expensive to enforce through legal means and then objecting when the rights holders attempt to protect their investments through technological measures feels a little hypocritical.

There should be a choice: either the legal system protects your IP (copyright), or you do (DRM). You shouldn't get the benefits of both approaches, because they are mutually exclusive. Material that is protected with DRM has effectively been stolen from the future public domain. At the very least, key escrow should be required before copyright protection is granted.

There should be a choice: either the legal system protects your IP (copyright), or you do (DRM).

I don't necessarily agree with that premise, but even if we accept it for the sake of argument, I don't think the legal system does effectively protect your IP in many copyright situations, so what happens then?

As an analogy, if you told every store that to prosecute the theft of a bar of chocolate they'd have to employ specialist teams to track down the individuals and then spend a thousand bucks on legal fees to bring a private prosecution, and at the end they might only get back the cost of the chocolate bar and a bit of token compensation, do you really think thieves would be deterred effectively and the store properly protected in its legal rights?

And yet we usually define copyright as a civil matter in most countries, other than sometimes in cases of large-scale commercial infringement, rather than a criminal matter like theft. Stores might or might not employ a dedicated security guard, but if the guard does see a theft, the rest of what happens after the police are called is mostly going to be handled and paid for by the state. It makes a viable deterrent against large numbers of small-scale offences. Such a deterrent doesn't usually exist in the case of copyright infringement.

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