Can a person who purchased these products with a US-based credit card now perform a charge-back based on this?
You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks
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Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks
#282I seriously think this was the last straw for Adobe and I. I just wanted to install an older version of an app (that I've paid for!) on an older computer. I've literally spent thousands of dollars on software that I can no longer use for no reason other than that they will no longer allow me to. The worst part seems to be that they've just killed links and information about this - so you have people presuming they ca…
I have officially given up on Adobe after 28 years, too. Even with the new features in Potatochop/Lightroom on image protection. I can't run my old software, or I can't obtain my old software, and CC is just a shitshow of processes permanently running and sucking up battery power. DaVinci Resolve is amazing. I'm becoming better and better with GIMP. CaptureOne is crappier to use but has much better output. Lightroom…
> CC is just a shitshow of processes permanently running
I HATE this so much that I have an AutoHotkey shortcut that I run after I'm done using any of the CC programs. It kills everything Adobe. I also have a Windows scheduled task that runs every 15 minutes that deletes any autoruns from Adobe in the registry, deletes any Adobe services, etc., because I found that they obnoxiously fully re-added things whenever I would open CC.
Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks
#283I'm sure I've read an old Joel on Software post somewhere about how Adobe/Photoshop got big in the first place, but I can't seem to find it anymore. The story as I remember it went like this: X had a practical monopoly on professional image editing and printing, everything else was for amateurs. (Was that Quark? not sure). Then X did something that pissed off a lot of their users, and within a few months everyone had…
This isn't going to piss off current customers though, it's going to piss off customers from fifteen years ago, who haven't upgraded, or maybe the freeloaders that used CS2 lately.
A lot of people were pissed off about Adobe stopping perpetual licenses, but that didn't hurt their bottom line. In fact, they increased revenue because a subscription is a low upfront cost.
Most of the people complaining about this are non-customers whose strong-held beliefs on how to license software have been offended. These people don't matter to Adobe's business.
Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks
#284I'm sure I've read an old Joel on Software post somewhere about how Adobe/Photoshop got big in the first place, but I can't seem to find it anymore. The story as I remember it went like this: X had a practical monopoly on professional image editing and printing, everything else was for amateurs. (Was that Quark? not sure). Then X did something that pissed off a lot of their users, and within a few months everyone had…
Quark Express was B-I-G in DTP, IIRC it needed a hardware dongle to run. Adobe PageMaker was their DTP alternative.
Adobe's big break was the Apple LaserWriter printer supporting postscript (the page description language).
Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks
#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
Flash is still used in animation and other bits, despite its web presence disappearing
Is there a reliable way to view flash files without a browser then? I'm concerned about loosing the ability to occasionally view some flash (games etc) after Chrome removes Flash support this december. And people (I have quite a number of friends who do) already have to use old Windows systems with Internet Explorer to use the Flash app to apply to the US DV lottery (Chrome just offers to save it instead of running i…
Flash Player works as a standalone app iirc.
Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks
#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
What about a replacement for Adobe Acrobat Pro on (Windows)? That is the one app that keeps me having a Creative Cloud subscription. In a business setting I find it essential.
That, and Adobe Lightroom. I tried to switch and had a mixture of Darktable, RawTherapee, RapidPhotoDownloader and digiKam running. It was unpleasant and years behind Lightroom, unfortunately. Even more unfortunate is that I have a stand-alone license for Lightroom 5, but my camera is too new for it (no support for its RAWs).
Thanks for the feedback, I hadn't thought about replacing Lightroom yet.
I do like Lightroom, but the catalogue speed with 100k+ photos is glacial on my PC. I tried importing 30 years of photos rather than having multiple catalogues, as tagging consistently across all would be useful ("Hey auntie Sally, look at the photos of you aging!").
Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks
#287This is a fundamental problem with commercial software. 15 years ago when this software was released the choice to have server authentication essentially was the original sin.
No, it's a fundamental problem with Adobe software.
No, it's a fundamental problem with proprietary software: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24831699
Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks
#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
What about a replacement for Adobe Acrobat Pro on (Windows)? That is the one app that keeps me having a Creative Cloud subscription. In a business setting I find it essential.
That, and Adobe Lightroom. I tried to switch and had a mixture of Darktable, RawTherapee, RapidPhotoDownloader and digiKam running. It was unpleasant and years behind Lightroom, unfortunately. Even more unfortunate is that I have a stand-alone license for Lightroom 5, but my camera is too new for it (no support for its RAWs).
Darktable has had a major upgrade recently , and at least on Windows, it’s pretty much on par and its GUI has had a major boost in responsiveness.
Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks
#289Are there any OSS options that come anywhere close to the functionality of apps in the CS2 or CS3 bundles?
Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks
#290Earlier quoted context omitted.
I switched to Affinity completely, and I also slowly see some people in the industry change. And for video, DaVinci Resolve. There might be cases were you’re tied to CS, but the bulk of the work can be done in these apps.
What about a replacement for Adobe Acrobat Pro on (Windows)? That is the one app that keeps me having a Creative Cloud subscription. In a business setting I find it essential.
What are your must-have features?