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You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by seg_lol »

aaron695 wrote: post #162
potency wrote: post #128

> The aging activation servers for those apps had to be retired. Oh come on. Surely a company with the resources of Adobe can figure out a way to keep an activation server running. In fact I'll bet you could find one competent sysadmin to keep it running indefinitely. I hate when companies spew out obvious utter B.S. like this.

What would you think it would cost per year? What $ amount? What would be the break down? Legacy software, security and the constant upgrades, a manager, HR, customer support. Training your all your call centres to know about it and who to re-direct issues to.

Pennies

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by achow »

cheeze wrote: post #104
egonschiele wrote: post #77

In the last month I've returned two pieces of Adobe software and canceled a yearly subscription. I've been seeing ads for the AI features in photoshop all over twitter this week. It's pretty clear what their business strategy is -- just keep working on the tech and assume people will buy their software because it's the only one with the hot tech thing. It's ironic that for a company that caters to designers, artists…

As someone who has used both quite a bit, IMO Procreate is nice, and very good for certain things, but not even close to Photoshop. If I can't run it on a desktop computer, big fat meh.

Affinity is the answer.

"I've switched all my work to Procreate, Affinity, and Final Cut."

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by perryizgr8 »

firefoxd wrote: post #100

It's 2020, the ipad is 10 years old. It was a revolutionary product. Some people stood in line for hours to be the first to own it. Well that reminds me, i do own one! Get it out of the closet and ah, the battery is depleted. Who expects it to hold charge after... 8 years? I don't have a cable either. I have lightning though, even usb-c. But nope, it's the old 30 pin charger. Order it online. Still works! Except, I h…

I dug out my old Palm Visor Platinum (released in 2000) a few months ago. Works perfectly. I was even able to find a large collection of apps and transfer to it using the handspring sync program which runs ok in compatibility mode on Win10.

It uses AAA cells so battery is never a problem. I really wish we could go back to standard replaceable batteries for phones and laptops :(

Amazing what we can do if we don't artificially hobble our own engineering prowess.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by core-questions »

aaron695 wrote: post #162
potency wrote: post #128

> The aging activation servers for those apps had to be retired. Oh come on. Surely a company with the resources of Adobe can figure out a way to keep an activation server running. In fact I'll bet you could find one competent sysadmin to keep it running indefinitely. I hate when companies spew out obvious utter B.S. like this.

What would you think it would cost per year? What $ amount? What would be the break down? Legacy software, security and the constant upgrades, a manager, HR, customer support. Training your all your call centres to know about it and who to re-direct issues to.

> What would you think it would cost per year?

The real cost is the people who don't go and subscribe to Adobe CC because they still have a totally functional release of CS3. Once their old machines die, they'll be forced to become a renter.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by seg_lol »

LeonB wrote: post #140
chongli wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds absurd now but I wouldn’t be surprised if cars are locked down like that at some point. Just look at the stuff Tesla does all the time.

Obviously they can't turn the car off while you're driving, so they'll perform these checks either when you stop the car or when you start it. The solution then is to never ever stop the car. And you may also need to fool the onboard gps and vision systems into believing the car is moving. So in the future, a crappy old car will need to be left running 24 hours a day, in an augmented reality garage that fools the car…

You should write it from the back seat of your car.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by underwater »

maxerickson wrote: post #157
tbirdny wrote: post #62

No one would still be using CS 2 or 3 if Adobe had reasonable prices on new products. I bought Adobe products since the mid 1990s, but I recently switched to Affinity Photo and Designer because Adobe priced me out. Elements wasn't powerful enough for me. I was surprised how good Affinity software is. It does everything I need and is a very reasonable price without a subscription. I may never buy another Adobe product…

$600 a year isn't particularly expensive (that's for Creative Cloud). Roughly $0.30 an hour vs whatever wage is being paid to click the buttons. It's not cheap , but it's not something businesses are going to balk at either. They are showing healthy growth in revenue: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ADBE/financials?p=ADBE So apparently lots of their users are not concerned about their change to the pricing model and…

It's cheap for professional use, but it's very expensive for amateurs and occasional users.

I was using Lightroom to manage my catalogue of photos. I'd open up Photoshop and Lightroom maybe a dozen times a year. It was nice to have them available but they were effectively costing me $20 each use. When Adobe products were an upfront payment I could choose to buy a product and keep it through multiple release cycles, which would reduce my cost.

Adobe have switched their revenue driver from improving the product and introducing new must-have features to making churn painful. In fact when I tried to cancel my ~4 year old subscription they decided charged me a penalty fee because it wasn't done immediately before my account's anniversary. Their incentives are now strongly misaligned with building a good customer experience.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by Bud »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #173
firefoxd wrote: post #100

It's 2020, the ipad is 10 years old. It was a revolutionary product. Some people stood in line for hours to be the first to own it. Well that reminds me, i do own one! Get it out of the closet and ah, the battery is depleted. Who expects it to hold charge after... 8 years? I don't have a cable either. I have lightning though, even usb-c. But nope, it's the old 30 pin charger. Order it online. Still works! Except, I h…

I dug out my old Palm Visor Platinum (released in 2000) a few months ago. Works perfectly. I was even able to find a large collection of apps and transfer to it using the handspring sync program which runs ok in compatibility mode on Win10. It uses AAA cells so battery is never a problem. I really wish we could go back to standard replaceable batteries for phones and laptops :( Amazing what we can do if we don't arti…

There never were "standard replaceable batteries" for either phones, or laptops.

Replaceable? Yes. Standard? Big, big huge no.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by adamredwoods »

There are people that used to rely on this software as a means of an income: graphic designers, production designers, animators, illustrators, the list goes on.

For a company to have such a grip on their means of living seems a bit harsh. I have great respect for the software, but not a high regard for the way it is sold. I can only hope that cheaper alternatives come along someday, but again, I think Adobe has quite a stranglehold on the industry because their software is the standard.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by firecall »

ajxs wrote: post #159
Lammy wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'd be lovely if you had contact information in your profile ;)

...just thought I'd mention here that I have my contact information in mine.

... and I always make sure mine is in my profile too!

You know... just in case!

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by visarga »

LeonB wrote: post #140
chongli wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds absurd now but I wouldn’t be surprised if cars are locked down like that at some point. Just look at the stuff Tesla does all the time.

Obviously they can't turn the car off while you're driving, so they'll perform these checks either when you stop the car or when you start it. The solution then is to never ever stop the car. And you may also need to fool the onboard gps and vision systems into believing the car is moving. So in the future, a crappy old car will need to be left running 24 hours a day, in an augmented reality garage that fools the car…

Your sci-fi idea reminds me of Jack's short stories:

https://jack-clark.net/

(scroll to the bottom of the post for it)

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