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You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by harikb »

Adobe CS3 is about 10+ years old right?. I can see people blaming Adobe if they did provide a 10 yr old software without security updates.

Talking about software that no longer works, I tried network recovery on a 2016 Mac. 2016 Mac is programmed to download only Mojave. And Mojave can't be installed on a Mac that had Catalina at some point in the past (even after a complete disk wipe). It took me a whole day to find another Mac, download offline installer, buy a new USB stick (because the installer was a bit over 8G) and get it reinstalled.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by xtracto »

paledot wrote: post #36

This will be remembered as a dark age of humanity. Anything built or released in the early 21st century will simply become meaningless bytes to future generations.

Just think about the 1990s internet. Geocities is gone, xoom is gone Yahoo pages is gone. There's already a hole of all of the content that existed the. Sure for some people it might just be senseless 13 year olds' pages, but it is a big chunk of history right there.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by hajile »

542458 wrote: post #8
grecy wrote: post #2

> You can no longer reinstall Creative Suite 2 or 3 even if you have the original installation disks. The aging activation servers for those apps had to be retired. I always wonder if a situation like this is legal. If I purchased a product and want to keep using it, what right does the seller have to prevent me from doing so x years later? Can I sue them for not selling me the product they said they were selling me?

I think any competent lawyer would argue that the software was never guaranteed to have infinite lifespan, and Adobe stopped selling CS3 quite a while ago. The EULA explicitly says they don’t warranty anything past 90 days since sale. But regardless of that, your damages would be limited to what you spent on the license. So definitely not worth your time.

Don't forget all the time spent learning the beast that is CS3 only to have it stripped away.

What is the value of the years it takes to become proficient with such software? Remember, that investment was made on the back of the idea that the software would continue to be usable.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by dylan604 »

grecy wrote: post #2

> You can no longer reinstall Creative Suite 2 or 3 even if you have the original installation disks. The aging activation servers for those apps had to be retired. I always wonder if a situation like this is legal. If I purchased a product and want to keep using it, what right does the seller have to prevent me from doing so x years later? Can I sue them for not selling me the product they said they were selling me?

Why are they running physical servers for this anyways? Why not just host in the cloud right next to their current servers authenticating recent rental software?

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by userbinator »

srtjstjsj wrote: post #120
savant_penguin wrote: post #54

Just swap "Adobe cs2" for a car so it gets a lot funnier >>Sir, you are no longer allowed to use your car >But I paid for it! It's my car! >>Our aging servers had to be retired >Can't you just turn off the checking so it won't cost you anything and I can keep using my car? >>No sir, without the checking people would start pirating the car > But you don't even sell this car anymore! So much so you don't even want to k…

This change only applies to people who want a replacement "car" after losing their 13+ year old "car". Cars only have replacement parts available for N years.

Cars only have replacement parts available for N years

...and for some models, N is closer to half a century than half a decade.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by gibolt »

henriquez wrote: post #98
egonschiele wrote: post #77

In the last month I've returned two pieces of Adobe software and canceled a yearly subscription. I've been seeing ads for the AI features in photoshop all over twitter this week. It's pretty clear what their business strategy is -- just keep working on the tech and assume people will buy their software because it's the only one with the hot tech thing. It's ironic that for a company that caters to designers, artists…

Speaking of UI, I’ve been using Photoshop since 1999 and it’s remarkable how little the UI has changed. Sure there are new panels and features, but the basic layout and most of the keyboard shortcuts are all the same. The consistency and familiarity is really nice but I’m sure they’ve sacrificed a ton of UX potential to keep old farts like me.

Changing the UI would raise so much uproar. Millions of workflows would have to change.

In addition, it just does so much that changing it would be a very costly task likely to break a lot of things and end up removing features that some tiny niche still uses.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by StillBored »

I've been a firm believer that copyrights should expire when the item isn't commercially available anymore. And to keep people from abusing the obvious issues, it needs to be available at a reasonable cost relative to its price when originally released, or the copyright renewal needs to have an exponentially growing fee.

I've also been considering what it means if copyright was to assure something for the public good whether there shouldn't be some kind of enforced escrow of the source. Having the copyright expire on the binaries does nothing if no one hid a copy of the source away in their shoebox.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by kec »

walrus01 wrote: post #28

Alexa, show me how to drive a significant portion of your customer base towards unashamed piracy.

I would be willing to bet that less than 1% of adobe users were still using cs2 or 3. Anyone doing it for a living isn't going to blink at the subscription price (if they even had to pay for it personally).

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by LeonB »

chongli wrote: post #109
savant_penguin wrote: post #54

Just swap "Adobe cs2" for a car so it gets a lot funnier >>Sir, you are no longer allowed to use your car >But I paid for it! It's my car! >>Our aging servers had to be retired >Can't you just turn off the checking so it won't cost you anything and I can keep using my car? >>No sir, without the checking people would start pirating the car > But you don't even sell this car anymore! So much so you don't even want to k…

It sounds absurd now but I wouldn’t be surprised if cars are locked down like that at some point. Just look at the stuff Tesla does all the time.

Obviously they can't turn the car off while you're driving, so they'll perform these checks either when you stop the car or when you start it. The solution then is to never ever stop the car. And you may also need to fool the onboard gps and vision systems into believing the car is moving.

So in the future, a crappy old car will need to be left running 24 hours a day, in an augmented reality garage that fools the car into thinking it is on a long journey.

I would like to write a science fiction story from the point of view of a sentient car in that situation. But I have to write my code instead.

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