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Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

#111
post #73

IMO, PeerTube will never become popular due to its decentralized nature.

It doesn't have to be popular in order to be successful, or worthwhile.

Some day, we're going to have services with 6 billion users. I don't think that will be a good day.

As a consultant I have frequently been in a situation where each member of 'my' team was only outnumbered about 6:1 by the customer. That can be directly managed. As a business owner, I can afford to have a personal relationship with a few percent of my customers. I can cherry pick. As a medium application developer, each of my employees might represent 1000 users, and even zone defense starts to crumble. I have to start treating them as numbers, and that causes new types of problems.

I see the sorts of compromises we often have to make at hundreds of thousands of users, and I'm grateful that most of the verticals I'm interested in wouldn't ever have 600 million users, let alone ten times that much. There are verticals where form and function are tightly aligned, and I think those can scale much higher. Torrents and Discord, off the top of my head, I think resemble that remark. Infrastructure like nginx or Consul, maybe. Linux... well, it's 5 million lines of code so it might be 'failing' in that manner.

Reddit, on the other hand... I'm glad I'm not responsible for Reddit because I'd probably hate myself half as much as my users claim to.

Some comedian had a bit years ago about how he wanted to be 'Bruce Campbell famous'. This is a guy who is a god in a niche. If he wants his ego stoked, he just needs to be in the right room, and he can make that room happen just by asking for it. Meanwhile he can go out to dinner at a nice restaurant and there is a reasonable expectation that he might get to eat in peace. I think I could deal with that level of success.

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

#112
post #27

This is so heart warming. Thanks to Debian and wow - Framasoft (who I'd never heard of) has a page that is so on point!! Amazing. Someone doing something to stop the book burning (comment deletion in the billions) and censorship at youtube. I wish there was more of this.

> Someone doing something to stop the book burning (comment deletion in the billions) and censorship at youtube. What kind of content is getting "censored" on YouTube?

"Inside LGBTQ Vloggers’ Class-Action ‘Censorship’ Suit Against YouTube"[1]:

> YouTubers claim the internet platform is targeting videos not because of their content, but because of the sexual identity of their creators

[1] https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/lgbtq-...

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

#113
post #5

Anyone want to take bets that Google would eventually try to deprecate whatever API peertube needs because of some plausibly true "security reason" in the next few years?

Google is deprecating APIs left and right. For example, Google Music users were migrated over to YouTube Music as Google Music was deprecated. Google Music had an API you could develop against, YouTube Music lacks any such API, leaving people like me in the lurch.

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

#114
post #77
post #41

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Please, there are no additional costs for the employer. On paper yes, but from where do you think those "additional costs" are paid? Right, from the value an employee creates.

It is still a cost.

Yes, it is a cost which is paid solely by employees. Where do you think money for paying that cost comes from?

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

#115
post #106
post #36

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The additional mandatory fees are around 30% https://sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbetsgivaravgifter_i_Sverig... So with 4 kEUR gross salary you end up at 5.2 kEUR cash costs. Then there are also non-cash costs, like 5 weeks of paid holidays (or did unions actually achieve the 6th one? It's 30 years I lived in Sweden...) And you might need an office, equipment, and what not. So the cost can easily be 6-7 kEUR even if the…

Yes. An employer must also take into account the average sick time per employee and year, since it pays for sick pay day 2 - 14 when the employee is sick. That is an another contribution to the 2x ballpark number.

In Germany you pay/get 13 - 14 monthly salaries per year. In Finland 12.65. Don't know the figure for Sweden, but I'm pretty sure it's > 12.

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

#116
post #44
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please, there are no additional costs for the employer. On paper yes, but from where do you think those "additional costs" are paid? Right, from the value an employee creates.

and their salaries?

Employees salaries? They're paid because employees create some value for an employer. Where do you think money for salaries comes from anyway?

I had a friend who owned a company at the time. His sole criteria for hiring was that net salary + taxes + health insurance + all additional costs (yes, even those "paid by employer") must be <= the money employee earns him.

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

#117
post #27

This is so heart warming. Thanks to Debian and wow - Framasoft (who I'd never heard of) has a page that is so on point!! Amazing. Someone doing something to stop the book burning (comment deletion in the billions) and censorship at youtube. I wish there was more of this.

> Someone doing something to stop the book burning (comment deletion in the billions) and censorship at youtube. What kind of content is getting "censored" on YouTube?

I've noticed a lot of self-censorship in an effort to appease "the algorithm", or their perception thereof.

Things like being afraid to say certain common phrases like "mental illness" because they believe it will lead to their video being demonetized.

Then there are the comments. Try leaving a comment in Mandarin that I'm told means "communist bandits". It looks like the comment succeeds, but reloading reveals it has been censored. Silent censorship to appease the CCP.

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

#118

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But the employee does not see it on their pay slip, unlike the regular taxes and pension. So when people (aka employees) talk about taxes it is rarely mentioned. In that regard it is a hidden tax. My boss told me he when thinking about our pay he considers the expense to the company to be about 2x what we get paid (pre-tax). So that's the "arbetsgivaravgift" (we got the same thing here in Norway) and pensions on top…

It's not paid by the worker, it's paid by the employer. There no more need to have it on the pay slip than any other per-employee expenses.

If the worker doesn't earn for all these costs "paid by employer", the company would soon go bust.

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

#119
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is still a cost.

Yes, it is a cost which is paid solely by employees. Where do you think money for paying that cost comes from?

I never said anything about that. Just arguing against your false claim "there are no additional costs for the employer". If you mean something else, say that instead.

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

#120
post #5

Anyone want to take bets that Google would eventually try to deprecate whatever API peertube needs because of some plausibly true "security reason" in the next few years?

What youtube APIs does peertube need? Does peertube need youtube? AFAIK it's its own service with no youtube dependency.
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