Does anyone know which CI tools they wanted to use, that doesn't support FreeBSD? I mean there are many that doesn't, at least is so good that DARPA wanted to fund the project.
FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
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Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is this getting downvoted? He's right. Refute his points instead of downvoting him.
> Why is this getting downvoted? He's right. Refute his points instead of downvoting him. >> I think the only reason people enjoy it is the fact that they have not gotten a chance to really spend time in a good tiling window manager on X11/GNU/Linux I don't like Windows, but its UI is not that bad, come on. Moreover, I use GNU/Linux full time but I don't use a tiling manager. My windows are fullscreen most of the tim…
> I don't like Windows, but its UI is not that bad, come on.
I don't know. I am very OK with Win7 but I tried installing Win10 the other week on a VM in the intent to let it superseed my Linux on the desktop.
The 125% scaling of UI made fonts blurry on my monitor and text inconsistently sized. The "dark" theme lets core apps like Explorer flicker in white then turn dark, like slow Android apps. There are mini ad programs in the start menu. I don't even know where you're supposed to configure settings anymore without search; the control panel vs fancy settings apps vs msc snapins (which are the only parts that still work reliably)?
Their UI is worse than KDE or GNOME now. I had 3rd party applications working perfectly fine which I guess is the point but Windows10 UI is no marvel.
This is a problem because Win7 used to just work, discretely.
What's left is for me to experiment with group policy settings and suchlike (at least my edition permits it) in the hopes of getting my issues fixed. Probably have to throw in a ton of third-party "Windows 10 fix" powershell libraries to clean things up.
I got the Win10 Enterprise license through my company. I would never pay money for this OS, privately.
Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
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Nah, lots of shops begrudgingly support Linux laptops because a VM is a lot less practical, and the productivity hit would be substantial, probably, and forcing devs to make do with Windows only is bad for hiring. If WSL really works out, though, it might be the other way around – Linux on Windows might work really well, be able to do things Linux itself can't, like interfacing with Windows-only hardware, using Direc…
> Linux on Windows might work really well … and be the superior experience in total for lots of people. No, it will not and — without massive changes at Microsoft and in Windows — will never be. Source: have a Windows box, am repeatedly amazed at how bad it is. Seriously, it is embarrassing to use Windows. I think the only reason people enjoy it is the fact that they have not gotten a chance to really spend time in a…
> Linux is head and shoulders above Windows on the desktop
When plug-and-play, drivers, and power management work correctly. When business software is compatible. When you don't have to search through obscure forums or jump on FreeNode to figure out why your wireless card doesn't work. When your filesystem corrupts and won't boot because you didn't shut it down correctly. When your font anti-aliasing and resolution scaling doesn't look like shit. When you have several hours a day to set things up, rather than getting work done.
Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
it's called "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish"
There is nothing to extinghuish, except for the notion of Linux on the desktop, that was never a thing anyway, except for a few technerds. Microsoft has indeed embraced Linux, in the context of Azure, they are making a ton of money thanks to Linux. And if people develop for Linux-based platforms, why not give them the tools?
> There is nothing to extinghuish, except for the notion of Linux on the desktop
Thanks you proved my point
Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why is this getting downvoted? He's right. Refute his points instead of downvoting him. >> I think the only reason people enjoy it is the fact that they have not gotten a chance to really spend time in a good tiling window manager on X11/GNU/Linux I don't like Windows, but its UI is not that bad, come on. Moreover, I use GNU/Linux full time but I don't use a tiling manager. My windows are fullscreen most of the tim…
> I don't like Windows, but its UI is not that bad, come on. I don't know. I am very OK with Win7 but I tried installing Win10 the other week on a VM in the intent to let it superseed my Linux on the desktop. The 125% scaling of UI made fonts blurry on my monitor and text inconsistently sized. The "dark" theme lets core apps like Explorer flicker in white then turn dark, like slow Android apps. There are mini ad prog…
So to catalogue, your two issues are...
- DPI scaling turned on by default on high dpi displays even though compatibility isn't perfect. Well, GTK DPI scaling certainly isn't perfect either to say the least.
- Not sure where the settings are: Click "start" and click "settings". Forget about the legacy control panel as that is only there for compatibility with old software and for changing the settings of deprecated features used by old software. Forget about MMC unless you have been directed to use it by the documentation, like for example if you are administering Windows Server machines. And I'm sure it goes without saying that Linux systems are certainly no better when it comes to the diversity of methods for adjusting settings.
And these issues are so offensive that while you thought Win 7 was an "OK" OS, you "would never pay money for" Win 10?
Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
This. It's been MICROS~1's primary tactic against competitors for at least 1/3 of a century now and nothing has changed: now the company just _says_ it likes FOSS. Does Windows set up dual-boot if Linux is installed first? Naw. Does Windows read or write Linux filesystems? Naw. Has MS open-sourced any significant or important parts of Windows where it won't benefit directly? Naw. It is in MS' direct interests if Powe…
MS doesn't care about Stallmans GNU goals. What they do care about are developers not being annoyed with working on a Windows machine (or nowadays using their Azure clouds). Speaking for myself, I'm coming from the gamedev world (lately webdev) and as such was mostly tied to windows due to various tools(Photoshop,Modo,3dsmax in the past,etc) but that didn't mean that I was going to suffer by using IIS or spend a fort…
This is _precisely_ the sort of thought the company wishes to cultivate:
* That they don't care about Free Software (they do, it is a hated enemy).
* That they are ignoring the FOSS world (they're watching it closely and working out how to stealthily attack it).
* That they'll play nice and so should be welcomed (they are a merciless enemy to be constantly wary of).
In other words, their marketing team's message of "we've changed, we're nice and friendly now, trust us" is working perfectly.
Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
You underestimate most companies' (with significant internal engineering organizations) commitment to open source. It's been 8 years since I've even had to touch Windows professionally and without any overt effort on my part.
Well "not touching it at all" would've been great but I've had my main machine on Windows for about 2-3 years out of the last 14, so I don't think that's so rare. Since 2013 I didn't even have a job anyone with a Windows machine /could have done/, because the stuff simply doesn't run or compile. (Yeah, WSL and all, the box was too slow to compile stuff natively already).
Thanks for sharing your story. This is the point I'm making.
Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#48"On the Git front, their transitioning from Subversion to Git they hope to have a beta repository by the end of October." Their migration from Subversion to Git also provided the motive for the murder mystery book "git commit murder" by Michael W. Lucas.
There also were a video about it with a genius intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj1Ricrq0bs
Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#49"On the Git front, their transitioning from Subversion to Git they hope to have a beta repository by the end of October." Their migration from Subversion to Git also provided the motive for the murder mystery book "git commit murder" by Michael W. Lucas.
Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't like Windows, but its UI is not that bad, come on. I don't know. I am very OK with Win7 but I tried installing Win10 the other week on a VM in the intent to let it superseed my Linux on the desktop. The 125% scaling of UI made fonts blurry on my monitor and text inconsistently sized. The "dark" theme lets core apps like Explorer flicker in white then turn dark, like slow Android apps. There are mini ad prog…
So to catalogue, your two issues are... - DPI scaling turned on by default on high dpi displays even though compatibility isn't perfect. Well, GTK DPI scaling certainly isn't perfect either to say the least. - Not sure where the settings are: Click "start" and click "settings". Forget about the legacy control panel as that is only there for compatibility with old software and for changing the settings of deprecated f…
I find that it's hard to successfully misrepresent what someone said when the original is right there for everyone to see.