Did any voters actually fall for this? It seemed laughably fraudulent to me at the time, and it's not clear to me if the con worked or if politicians are so non-responsive to the voters that it didn't really matter if anyone was actually fooled.
It was mostly Republicans, and yes they fell for it hard.
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It was mostly Republicans, and yes they fell for it hard.
The governor lost the election very shortly after announcing this. I think that's evidence to show that most people did not think it was a good idea.
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#183The government ended up paying over $200k for each job created.
It sickens me what people will do to push their own little kingdom of power. This guy wanted to get reelected so he was willing to give away $3 billion of people's hard earned money and screw up hundreds of people's lives (all the students and others that were hired, left better jobs, then got fired).
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#184> The other initiative, called Foxconn Future Leaders, targeted recent college graduates > Employees ..., no matter what role they had been hired for, were told to figure out what Foxconn should do in Wisconsin themselves. > The new management seemed increasingly open in its disdain for the local workforce. “Why are Americans paid so much and do so little? I can’t tell you how many times we heard that,” said one empl…
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I would still put Citizens up there. We have rules around elections in the same way that we have some limits on individual speech (yelling fire, and all that) to effect the fundamental right that the First Amendment is meant to protect. Similarly, PACs were an unforeseen (and in some ways unforeseeable to eighteenth century framers) exploit of a well functioning democracy as it relates to people . Kucho vs. Common Ca…
Yeah, but updating the constitution and election laws are congress' job, not the courts.
That is the reason why the courts have gotten so important, and why the Supreme Court and other federal justice nominations and their confirmation by the Trump administration will have such long lasting impact - given that there is no input from the legislative, governing has fallen to the executive and judiciary.
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#186This is a great article around why "corporate welfare" rarely works out. Also, semes like a textbook example of "eminent domain" abuse? We call this "expropriation" in Canada and it is rarely abused like this. Taking peoples property to give it to a private corporation? I can understand the need to take property for public use (roads, infra) but the US needs to end eminent domain abuse. If Foxconn needed the property…
You can blame the worst supreme court decision in the 21st century for that. (Kelo v City of New London) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London
Wait, so did the original owner get back their property then?
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#187This is a great article around why "corporate welfare" rarely works out. Also, semes like a textbook example of "eminent domain" abuse? We call this "expropriation" in Canada and it is rarely abused like this. Taking peoples property to give it to a private corporation? I can understand the need to take property for public use (roads, infra) but the US needs to end eminent domain abuse. If Foxconn needed the property…
You can blame the worst supreme court decision in the 21st century for that. (Kelo v City of New London) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London
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Yeah, but updating the constitution and election laws are congress' job, not the courts.
That would assume that there is a working Congress (for the laws) and working intra-state coordination (for constitutional amendments). The reality is that Congress has been locked up ever since the third year of Obama, and since 1971 (26th) there only got one constitutional amendment passed (27th, in 1992). That is the reason why the courts have gotten so important, and why the Supreme Court and other federal justic…
And of course the founding fathers didn't foresee today's' society, so they included ways to upgrade and amend the constitution and election laws.
That congress isn't doing its job is a different debate entirely, but not Scotus' fault.
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#189Anyone know what was in it for Terry from the start? It sounded like access and favor from Trump, but the trade war still happened and he’s still saying there’s going to be a LCD factory to this day.
Foxconn stayed out of the cross-hairs, unlike Huawei, ZTE, SMIC, etc. Honestly they should've been since they are a prime facilitator of outsourcing of high margin manufacturing. Pretty much any major computing giant you think of gets their stuff made by Foxconn. I'd argue that a _real_ trade-war didn't happen. If it did, color me underwhelmed[1]. We got some tariffs put on Chinese goods, China started buying Brazili…
Was running; he lost fairly decisively.
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I fixed some of your spelling errors: "Shameful fraud by foxconn. Shame on them. The fact they do it around the world with little repercussions is shameful."
It is incredibly shameful, but sometimes the utter disregard they have for the taxpayer is so stunning and brazen that you can't help but admire.
This is really a story of failure upon failure; the political ploy didn't work out for Walker, either. No-one's happy, in the end.