61–70 of 129 posts
I don't mean this as a joke, but I'm actually rather hesitant to express any thoughts on this after reading it. I'll just leave it at that.
Could you imagine _any_ of the comments here HN affixed to that Twitter thread? You could seriously jeopardize your career. What I wonder is how people can live in such wildly divergent realities? I suppose social media (which includes both Twitter and HN) plays a primary role.
A lot of drama here that seems to spill out into real life. Two opposing sides. But, they're largely on the same side it seems like. One seems to have made a mistake in submitting her article unknowingly to a blog that doesn't accept articles from white women, and the other wasn't happy about this or the tone from the first person.
> But, they're largely on the same side There's no such thing for the people who buy into this kind of identity politics. Any difference in views, no matter how small is irreconcilable. No leeway is allowed. The best option for any reasonable person is to keep quiet, stay as far away from these hypocrites as possible and hope that when they inevitably self-destruct, none of the fallout lands on you.
"I am really tired of white women's tears." This is a plainly racist comment.
Justification is "it's okay to punch up, just not punch down"
A Chinese colleague told me a joke a few years ago. "An American asked a Chinese, 'how does it feel to not be able to publicly criticize your President?' And the Chinese replied, 'How does it feel to not be able to publicly support yours?'"
"I am really tired of white women's tears." This is a plainly racist comment.
Justification is "it's okay to punch up, just not punch down"
The government, media, Hollywood, academia etc are openly racist in their denigration of Whites, hiring policies favouring non-Whites, public spending programs (500bn for blacks just announced), etc.
By many metrics, Whites are down. Many anti-Whites are happily aware of that.
Are you sure this is a precedent you want to set? Already I'm seeing many Whites champing at the bit to pull on their gloves and start punching up; and there will be no room for moral condemnation when they do.
"I am really tired of white women's tears." This is a plainly racist comment.
It's not possible to be racist to white people. It's not racist by definition.
(For context, this is a response to the now-removed parent that said this of Whites.)
Re: The podcast getting cancelled. This is what Amy Westervelt (who cancelled her) has to say. She also provides context on what lead to that decision and it wasn't just a random twitter fight. https://twitter.com/amywestervelt/status/1316923479011303424
From what I read, I still don't know what happened (I don't care, either); but, the discussion on Twitter is so devoid of details that nothing can be learned or obtained from it, except that the person now cancelled seems to come from a different generation and that there have been numerous things that need to be changed about scripts, or something, and that she's generally pretty okay with it, if a bit difficult - but then, if a script you write, or whatever, has experienced a death by thousands of cuts where the implication of story decisions are continuously assumed to be, or explained how they could be interpreted as malicious when they weren't intended that way, that could get a bit tiring and one's tolerances might get weak.
Everybody continuously needs another dose of empathy. Everybody.
Again, I have no opinion on the matter, I don't know any of these people. Everyone seems to be painted in a bad light in this story (not just the twitter post) and the Amy Westervelt just seems trapped in the middle of it all, attempting to be very diplomatic about everything.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
intersectionalist This is a new word for me. I Googled a bit, but didn't find anything helpful to fit it into the context of your comment. Can you explain it a bit?
From my understanding, intersectional feminism believes this: Not all women experience the world the same, or have the same struggles. You can subdivide people's struggles further. For example, women and men experience the world differently. Black people and white people experience the world differently with what sort of things they can take for granted and things that other people will assume about them. And it goes…