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Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by freedomben »

bluedino wrote: post #47
meddlepal wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fragility of Dell's consumer laptops is why I continue to buy Lenovo's which are less sleek but have better durability and run Linux just fine. In recent memory I've had an X1 Carbon and X1 Carbon Extreme Gen 1 and been very satisfied.

Lenovo parts availability is a huge plus over Dell as well. Second hand or repair parts are hard to find for them.

Exactly my thoughts too. I love the look and build of the Dell's but the Lenovos, while ugly, are so tough and so easy and cheap to repair. I buy all ThinkPads these days (most recently the T580 and T490, both of which are amazing and run Fedora like a dream, out of the box).

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by freedomben »

nightfly wrote: post #27
sippingjippers wrote: post #23

I moved to XPS 15 as my first non-Mac machine in over 10 years, and I must say I'm far from impressed by the build quality. These laptops are gorgeous new, but they are SO fragile. One of the screen hinges is broken, I've replaced numerous keys, the keyboard is now developing some debounce/key registration issue all over the right-hand side, the speakers are both blown (left first then the right), the trackpad sits 0…

Dell Latitudes are built more solidly.

Yeah, the Latitudes are basically XPS but aimed at business rather than consumer. I always go with Latitudes.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by someonexisting »

sippingjippers wrote: post #23

I moved to XPS 15 as my first non-Mac machine in over 10 years, and I must say I'm far from impressed by the build quality. These laptops are gorgeous new, but they are SO fragile. One of the screen hinges is broken, I've replaced numerous keys, the keyboard is now developing some debounce/key registration issue all over the right-hand side, the speakers are both blown (left first then the right), the trackpad sits 0…

Kind of weird reading this. I don't own an XPS 15 myself, but I've heard nothing but praise for it on various forums and youtube videos.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by jeffbee »

rowanG077 wrote: post #29

I really don't understand why such an in depth benchmark does not test thermal throttling. This would be much more interesting to me. I disable turbo boost and undervolt my CPU on every laptop because it really drives me nuts that when I'm compiling something suddenly I can't use my web browser because my CPU has clocked to 800 Mhz. I rather have a little longer compilation time and ensure my PC is still usable in th…

None of these parts have an 800MHz base clock. If you are encountering PROCHOT asserts with normal workloads you should get your money back and/or post on your blog until Intel forces whatever third-rate vendor made your laptop to refund you.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by cehrlich »

sz4kerto wrote: post #49
imhoguy wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HP Elitebook 845/855 AMD support 32GB RAM officially, but they have 2 SODIMM slots so theoretically should support 64GB. One thing to watch out with Linux on HP laptops with AMD currently are problems with standby mode. They lack S3 deep sleep power state - only provide S2Idle so called Modern Standby. Although there are ways to mod ACPI tables there is still some black screen issue when the return from suspend happe…

48G means single channel RAM, which slows down the GPU a lot.

With Ryzen 4000, it means the first 32GB are running in dual channel and the remaining 16 are single channel.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by cehrlich »

ankushnarula wrote: post #7
wonnage wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's the Thinkpad T14s. I think the screen is worse and you miss out on an easily-accessible SD card reader, but I think Lenovo tends to be more reliable than Dell build quality-wise.

Thinkpad T14 Ryzen also has 400 and 500 nit build-to-order screen options.

The 400 nit panel has ridiculous amounts of ghosting (to the point where you can see it just by moving the mouse pointer), and the 500 nit panel is a “privacy” option which means worse than TN viewing angles. Unfortunately Lenovo is currently limiting the good screen to Intel for whatever reason.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by selectodude »

bluedino wrote: post #47
meddlepal wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fragility of Dell's consumer laptops is why I continue to buy Lenovo's which are less sleek but have better durability and run Linux just fine. In recent memory I've had an X1 Carbon and X1 Carbon Extreme Gen 1 and been very satisfied.

Lenovo parts availability is a huge plus over Dell as well. Second hand or repair parts are hard to find for them.

Is it still impossible to find non-garbage non-$200+ replacement batteries? I had to give up on my X61 because it was no longer a mobile device.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by rowanG077 »

jeffbee wrote: post #54
rowanG077 wrote: post #29

I really don't understand why such an in depth benchmark does not test thermal throttling. This would be much more interesting to me. I disable turbo boost and undervolt my CPU on every laptop because it really drives me nuts that when I'm compiling something suddenly I can't use my web browser because my CPU has clocked to 800 Mhz. I rather have a little longer compilation time and ensure my PC is still usable in th…

None of these parts have an 800MHz base clock. If you are encountering PROCHOT asserts with normal workloads you should get your money back and/or post on your blog until Intel forces whatever third-rate vendor made your laptop to refund you.

I didn't check if it is PROCHOT or not. But two XPS 13 laptops and a Surface Pro I have owned downclocked below the base clock under heavy workloads. In fact even in this benchmark you can see frequent drops below the base frequency during compilation of the linux kernel. And that's with 0% load on the GPU.

https://openbenchmarking.org/embed.php?i=2010162-FI-TIGERLAK...

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by riquito »

selectodude wrote: post #57
bluedino wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lenovo parts availability is a huge plus over Dell as well. Second hand or repair parts are hard to find for them.

Is it still impossible to find non-garbage non-$200+ replacement batteries? I had to give up on my X61 because it was no longer a mobile device.

I recently replaced the two batteries of a t460s, I paid 155 usd (53 + 70 + shipping outside USA) , using the Lenovo official vendor (encompass)
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