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We Tested Comma AI's OpenPilot

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Re: We Tested Comma AI's OpenPilot

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Post by rightbyte »

dukeme09 wrote: post #40
jmiskovic wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure where you looked, but https://github.com/commaai/openpilot states it very clearly: "openpilot observes ISO26262 guidelines, see SAFETY.md for more detail."

Yes, but what does "observes" ISO26262 mean? The words I would want to hear before plugging this into my car are, "meets", "complies with with", or "certified to ISO26262."

There is ofcourse no way they are ISO26262 compliant since they are not even trying to make it road legal.

ISO26262 compliance is really heavy and requires enormous amount of documentation and requirements tracking.

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Post by bnycum »

jimmyjack wrote: post #47

I want a device that will not control the car but will give more a ton of real-time information, ideally projected on some corner of my windshield. Information including: 1. Speed limit for the area/road I am in. 2. Real time radar report telling me how many cars/pedestrians e.t.c are around me. 3. Information on common accident types in the area I am driving in. 4. For my corner of the world, it will be good to get…

> 1. Speed limit for the area/road I am in.

My 2018 Honda Accord uses the camera to read speed limit signs and displays them in both the heads up display and in the middle of the gauge cluster.

Then I use Google Maps with CarPlay to offset some of that other information. It will alert if an alternate route becomes faster, or a wreck is ahead. I've also found it's been pretty good to know about road closures as well.

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Post by arc0 »

SwimSwimHungry wrote: post #2

George Hotz continues to keep blowing up the tech space somehow. I legitimately wonder if he's a savant, because he seems unstoppable. I did hear he has also stood on the shoulders of giants to get to where he is as well, so who knows.

He streams on Youtube/Twitch fairly regularly, just from watching it is totally obvious that he is a genius-level programmer. The speed with which he reads and comprehends academic papers is incredibly impressive.

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Post by ackbar03 »

SwimSwimHungry wrote: post #2

George Hotz continues to keep blowing up the tech space somehow. I legitimately wonder if he's a savant, because he seems unstoppable. I did hear he has also stood on the shoulders of giants to get to where he is as well, so who knows.

Was this written by GPT-3? This is such a strange sentence

But yes George is definitely the misfit hacker wonder-kid type, and in both senses of the word hacker. He was one of the first to jailbreak the iPhone and the PS4 or 5 (can't remember which)

Re: We Tested Comma AI's OpenPilot

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Post by freediver »

canada_dry wrote: post #51
notmine1337 wrote: post #28

I recommend George Hotz's livestream [1] to anybody interested in computer science, really fascinating. [1] : https://www.youtube.com/c/commaaiarchive/videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPQHv3z3MWY Guess I'm old... cuz that was painful to watch. Reminded me of the juvenile videos that Digg founders released back in their heyday. Sometimes you don't want/need to see behind the curtain!

His channel is recruiting tool for talent, not consumer facing PR. As such the content is very well suited.

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Post by dpacmittal »

ackbar03 wrote: post #74
SwimSwimHungry wrote: post #2

George Hotz continues to keep blowing up the tech space somehow. I legitimately wonder if he's a savant, because he seems unstoppable. I did hear he has also stood on the shoulders of giants to get to where he is as well, so who knows.

Was this written by GPT-3? This is such a strange sentence But yes George is definitely the misfit hacker wonder-kid type, and in both senses of the word hacker. He was one of the first to jailbreak the iPhone and the PS4 or 5 (can't remember which)

It was PS3

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Post by mtgx »

numpad0 wrote: post #50
matthewdgreen wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The CAN bus is shared by a number of devices, each with its own microprocessor and thus (in principle) potentially subject to exploits that cause it to run malicious code. Some of the devices on the bus interact with the outside world via cellular, Wifi, Bluetooth and USB. The disturbing idea here is that your car is basically an internally-unfirewalled network of computers that can kill you if they malfunction.

They can firewall or encrypt the bus, but if security fails , that can kill you as well by erroneously refusing to work.

Because firewalls are such a panacea for security?

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Post by stefan_ »

retSava wrote: post #11
raziel2p wrote: post #3

The most surprising part about this to me is that there seems to be a somewhat standardized computer interface for controlling cars with an external device. I would never have guessed that, I thought for sure every maker would come up with their own unique design and require you to buy adapters or whatnot.

It's mandated by regulation in all cars after..2002? It's a port most often situated close to the steering wheel, the interface is a bog standard CAN bus. Where it differs between cars is what command sets are used and allowed (eg sometimes proprietary ones are used, and controlling things may not be possible). It's common to extract diagnostics about the car from this port. For example, when buying a used car this i…

This is a bit simplistic. By now, most cars will have multiple CAN buses, not least to separate the infotainment crap from the safety-critical subsystems like the ECU, steering, ABS braking and others. Chances are the mandated diagnostic part you can access will not be able to control these subsystems (or even receive their messages).

Of course a hardware air-gap is inconvenient when you are trying to ship subpar hardware and software on a shoestring budget, so the industry invented smart CAN "switches" and it's possible to escalate the access the diagnostic port provides, or tunnel from the infotainment network to the safety one. In newer cars, you can also possibly substitute CAN in this post with Ethernet.

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