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Robert Graham [1] pointed out that if the emails are authentic, they can be trivially verified via DKIM. That the email metadata was not released implies the emails are either inauthentic, or that the post did not contact someone with basic competence in computer forensics. Either possibility seriously undercuts the article's credibility. [1] https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/1316407424648179717

Have you ever read an article in the mainstream press that spent space publishing metadata?

Journalists know about metadata. You can be sure that editors of more reputable institutions absolutely require it before publishing anything.

Source I went to journalism school and worked in PR for years before I became a software developer.

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It's remarkable that just weeks ago all the same actors had zero problems with illegally leaked tax returns from the other candidate. Hmm. I wonder why. Giuliani is promising to publish much more, including a photo in which Biden junior is having sex with a hooker while smoking crack. This is the same media companies that for 4 years told us that "the walls are closing in" due to the completely discredited "pee dossier".

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I think it is crazy that twitter has gone down this path. Being the arbiter of truth makes their job much harder and doesn’t seem to have a big upside. If they have an agenda they want to push the upside might be there but otherwise it’s just a perpetual shitshow.

Agreed. I can’t believe they didn’t see the writing on the wall. It doesn’t matter what their decision is (demeaning content misinformation or truth) they are going to be taking a ton of shit in perpetuity.

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"Fake news" is a call to criticism. The amount of people bringing up "fake news" and calling for say, CNN, to not be able to report at all is minimal. Comparatively you can't have a conversation about "disinformation" without talking about social media companies' responsibility to delete or hide content.

Ah ok, when Trump says a negative article about him is "fake news" it's criticism, but when "disinformation" comes out about Biden it's a call for censorship? Am I insane for seeing the dissonance here?

I am agreeing with refurb's comment below you. Most people calling "fake news" are trying to convince you to not watch something. Most people calling "disinformation" are trying to convince you that you should not be able to watch something. I'm not taking the side of Trump or anyone at all by saying that criticism is different than censorship, that's just a fact. Your argument is not in good faith if bringing that up to you is considered an implicit support for Trump, or anyone really.

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I’m not sure what you’re arguing for. If we had ignored everyone claiming there were WMDs then a million people would still be alive, not to mention the trillions of dollars saved.

I'm saying that the press was more than happy to publish non-factual information back in March-April 2003 and that no-one thought of censoring it.

So they should never learn from their mistakes?

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No. The Ministry of Truth and the protagonist of 1984, it’s employee, were engaged in revising the written record to make it match what the Party wanted in the present. They were also the only source of information. Twitter is not doing the former and isn’t the latter, so equating it with Minitrue is 100% factually incorrect.

Sure not everything matches up. The Ministry of Truth was government, but in America the same type of group exists and it's private. They don't have to rewrite history. They're rewriting the present.

> America the same type of group exists and it's private

You gotta admire the genius of it all. The state gets to control speech and the press via willing private citizens and corporations, whilst keeping its hands clean.

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IIRC, fake news was originally used by the left, but co-opted by Trump.

It doesn't matter, the claim " Let's be honest, the only people screaming for censorship are firmly on the left. " is demonstrably false.

A strange thing to say in a thread commenting on a news item where the left are censoring the right. Again.

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Facebook, Twitter, Reddit et. al. are now in Orwell's land of "Ministry of Truth" .. they are telling the people what is reliable "news" and what is not. It's getting pretty insane out there.

I can't imagine Twitter censoring a sensational pro-democrat news article. That's what makes me feel the strangest about this.

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It's not just Twitter, it's also Facebook. (I believe Facebook was actually the first to take action.) What if Google does it too? In the past few years, we've seen these big tech companies operate in a manner that seems collusive. They follow each other's cues. One company is the first to censor, and then the other companies follow very quickly with the exact same censorship. (The quick collective action tends to di…

I don't really care about Twitter or Facebook to be honest. It's not the only game in town. I'd be more concerned if I bought server hosting from AWS, stood up a WordPress blog about my thoughts on capitalism, socialism, sports, and dogs, and Amazon decides to suspend my account due to my writings.

There’s already been a test case. Wikileaks. Former AWS customer, they were kicked off for releasing the state department cables.
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