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Why would Twitter allow sharing something in DMs that they block in tweets? I’m sure this is just their normal policy - block things platform wide.

Why would Twitter enforce a Tiananmen Square-ish policy? Do they want to lose all credibility as a platform?

Did Twitter kill hundreds of people with tanks?

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At the VP debate Kamala Harris repeated the lie that Trump called covid a hoax. Niether party has a monopoly on lying to their base.

He said it at a rally on February 28th. Source: Video on c-span https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4865556/user-clip-trump-this-...

I remember this, he clearly refers to how he acted quickly to stop the flow of people from overseas and how few cases of COVID there were at that time. The "Hoax" was how Democrats were claiming Trump was xenophobic and/or accusing him of overreacting, if you remember Nancy Pelosi out walking around in Chinatown without a mask etc around this time. But how quickly the winds can shift.

This and the Charlottesville "fine people hoax" that Biden himself keeps repeating is fake news that just won't die, nor does Twitter seem too keen on helping kill it off either.

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Also, Twitter locked Kayleigh McEnany (White House Press Secretary) out of her twitter account for sharing the Hunter Biden story: https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/kayleigh-mcenany-locked-out-of...

If you look at the screenshots, Twitter notes that the reason her account is locked is because they do not allow their service to be used to distribute "content obtained through hacking that contains private information..."

Why is this rule applicable to the NY Post's story, but not to stories from the New York Times concerning Trump's financial records, which were also illegally obtained? This seems like clear evidence of a politically-biased double-standard.

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Let's be honest, the only people screaming for censorship are firmly on the left. Controlling "disinformation" is a dog whistle for censorship, hoping that average citizens don't realize what they're really after. We all know who is going to be the moderators in flagging "disinformation" and we all know which ideology they overwhelmingly favor. I'd sooner trust a pyromaniac as fire chief of my local county than I wou…

Right wing district attorneys are currently suing Netflix over Cuties, in a throwback to early-90s moral outrage arguments by people who have not actually watched a film and understood anything about it: https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2556282/netflixs-cuties-bac...

People have just gotten so used to conservative calls for censorship that they escape all notice.

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There's a recurring argument on social media censorship that goes: "you wouldn't want the telephone company censoring phone conversations would you?" And the response is along the lines: "these are hardly private conversations, any tweet can go viral and be seen by millions". This story breaks that mold in that it involves social media censoring private conversations via DM. If you think that's OK for Twitter on its…

I have never heard the recurring argument, thanks.

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post #304

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> Because the factuality of the story seems like a pretty big deal here. WMD were non-factual, but even so nobody got censored back then (worse, nobody went to prison for going to war on non-factual information).

I’m not sure what you’re arguing for. If we had ignored everyone claiming there were WMDs then a million people would still be alive, not to mention the trillions of dollars saved.

I'm saying that the press was more than happy to publish non-factual information back in March-April 2003 and that no-one thought of censoring it.

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Here's the article for those wondering https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden...

This is a colossal failure of a scam to discredit Biden. There was no chain of custody, the proported email had tons of tell tale signs of being faked, and NYPost posted exif data that undermined their whole claim. They even used ints for ids allowing a lot of unpublished docs out. https://twitter.com/russelneiss/status/1316398928850452481 https://twitter.com/russelneiss/status/1316402052885606400 https://twitter.com…

The screenshot of the email being displayed by the Apple Mail client does look a bit odd. May have been edited by the NYPost to show the names along with the email address?

/edit: actually, it does format in that way, but only when you export the mail as PDF from Apple Mail, not in the client itself

Anyway, my 2 cents having worked with many Russians and Ukranians: the overall tone, writing style and vocabulary used does not read like its from a native russian speaker.

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Whatever your perspective, directly verifiable censorship like this is just begging for legal trouble and monopoly investigations. Tactically speaking, I would say this is a massive mistake from Twitter.

This is what I don't get. People are screaming for digital channels to not allow disinformation even though they are just a passive communication channel. Is anyone screaming at printing presses for printing the NY Post? It's a garbage publication and this information is at least suspicious, but why are we holding Twitter to such a high standard of integrity and not actually journalists?

Social media isn't a "passive communication channel", not when likes and algorithms magnify the reach of content.

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The interview with the repair shop owner is also reduces this story’s already dwindling credibility: https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunter...

IMO it's relevant that twitter is blocking the story due to their rules about releasing hacked material, not misinformation. If the hard drive is a hoax, I think it's important to have an open discussion to shine a light on it. Banning the article in a way that appears to validate its claims will only embolden claims of a conspiracy. I think it's also interesting that the "hacking" ban doesn't have an exemption for t…

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If they had to give me five dollars for every spam call that got through, I bet they'd find a way to stop it. T-mobile already classifies these calls as 'Scam likely' and they've never seemed to misclassify any, so obviously it can be done.

> and they've never seemed to misclassify any They do, my local politician robo-calls all his constituents with info, and T-Mobile always flags his calls as spam. I guess in a way it's spam since it's unsolicited? But it's real info, and relevant to the local people he's calling, and keeping people informed is part of his job.

> politician

> robo-calls

Yeah that sounds like spam. If info needs to get sent out, try email. Robo-calls are intrusive, and generally the wrong medium for transmitting information.

Edit: Obtrusive -> intrusive. Although I guess both are technically correct.

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