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Post by dmode »

croissants wrote: post #125
tootie wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a bizarre story. Unidentified person drops off a damaged computer at a repair shop and never comes back. Hard drive contains lots of salacious info about Hunter Biden. Repair shop decides the correct course of action is to give it to Rudy Giuliani. That is fishy as hell.

Why is this being downvoted? As far as I can tell from reading the article, this is an accurate summary. The provided evidence that said laptop is genuinely connected with Hunter Biden is 1) a Biden sticker on the laptop, 2) the fact that it's a Delaware repair shop, and 3) a pornographic video featuring somebody who "appears to be" Hunter Biden. What about this is convincing evidence?

This thread is getting heavily brigaded

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by extropy »

blhack wrote: post #257

I’ve said before and I will continue saying: twitter CANNOT be the arbiter if truth. It will NEVER work, and trying to do so will be their undoing, but not before they make the problem they think they’re solving infinitely worse.

Welcome to the new world.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by tzs »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #163
tboyd47 wrote: post #120

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They probably have been doing this for a while, and this was just the first time they got called out for it. Regulatory action has been in the works for some time. Whether or not it goes through depends only on politics. The mainstream media already doesn't like them for eating their lunch. Twitter has nothing to lose by doing this. It will damage Facebook's brand identity as being a "free speech" platform, but that'…

Actually, Twitter has one massive thing to lose: Section 230. Already, senators are taking this as the perfect reason to repeal or reform 230, and that would directly impact twitter. Remember how there were hearings about 230 just two weeks ago? Twitter just shot themselves and their arguments for 230 in the foot with this. Which again begs the question from an investor's point of view: What did you expect was going…

Repeal of section 230 would probably result in Twitter blocking a lot more things than they do now.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by remarkEon »

mullingitover wrote: post #243
remarkEon wrote: post #192

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What's amusing about this whole thing to me is that Facebook and Twitter dropping the ban hammer on this piece will Streisand the hell out of it. If they'd left it alone, it would've been lost in the news cycle with everything else going on and no one would remember it in a week. Now the story is, once again, "Big Tech censors conservatives".

It's already lost in the news cycle. Not trending on twitter. Impotently reverberating on Parler.

Sure is for me, multiple variations of it. I'm not signed in (don't have an account), and am in a private window on firefox w/ cookies cleared.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by nobody9999 »

free_rms wrote: post #110
riffic wrote: post #83

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The difference between the telephone company and Twitter is that the phone company was (historically) a monopoly - the only game in town . Use their wires or get lost. It required common carrier neutrality by regulation. Twitter (and every single commercial social media space) is not the above, and can do what it wants on its service. It's not a public utility.

The combination of twitter and Facebook are a huge percentage of public conversation. "Just go start your own twitter" is missing the point. How would you feel if they had banned all talk of russian conspiracies the last few years? Would you be making the property rights argument still?

>How would you feel if they had banned all talk of russian conspiracies the last few years? Would you be making the property rights argument still?

Yes. Because otherwise the Russians (or anyone else) could do so on my property and I would have no recourse.

The appropriate way to handle this is to vote with your feet/wallet.

Besides, Twitter and Facebook's revenue model is so incredibly evil and exploitative, folks should leave there even if they weren't blocking whatever it is that you think is important.

I did nearly seven years ago and I'm much happier for it.

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Post by jtbayly »

free_rms wrote: post #212
Arthanos wrote: post #189

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This post has a very odd tone, as if a private company enforcing their policy to remove unverified & leaked personal correspondence of a private citizen is some unquestionable moral wrongdoing that's apparently going to blow up. Surprised to see this as at the top, on HN. National Review is a conservative wing-nut website trying to turn this non-story into fuel for their censorship culture war.

The pentagon papers were unverified and leaked. More recently and less impressively, the entire world of Russia-gate stuff was unverified and leaked Would you say the same if that stuff was censored?

How in the world can anybody dispute this!?!

Add WikiLeaks to the list too.

People can down vote all they want, but doing so just confirms that the only way to satisfy them is for Twitter to pick sides and apply its rules evenly unfairly on behalf of one political party.

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

lumost wrote: post #264
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #225

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I don't have a compelling argument for why you're wrong, but it really seems like this is a weightier claim than you're giving it credit for. If social harmony is a sufficient reason for censorship, is there any basis left for objecting to the Great Firewall?

I don't believe social harmony is a sufficient reason for censorship or that censorship is the correct approach. There are many potential remedies including. - Mandatory content identifiers tags on content/claims for unfactual or unverified reporting reaching more than X people. - Identifying frequent reporters of misinformation and identifying them as such when presenting/resharing information. - Reducing the spread…

That makes a lot of sense to me.

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Post by reilly3000 »

patrickaljord wrote: post #269

Here's the article for those wondering https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden...

This is a colossal failure of a scam to discredit Biden. There was no chain of custody, the proported email had tons of tell tale signs of being faked, and NYPost posted exif data that undermined their whole claim. They even used ints for ids allowing a lot of unpublished docs out.

https://twitter.com/russelneiss/status/1316398928850452481

https://twitter.com/russelneiss/status/1316402052885606400

https://twitter.com/marcusjcarey/status/1316386740794425344

National Review is part of the disinfo apparatus. Take anything they say with a pound of salt.

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Post by _qulr »

blhack wrote: post #230
optimuspaul wrote: post #81

I don't pay for twitter, I don't have any reasonable expectations for a SLA regarding anything including DMs. Just like I have no responsibility to listen to people on soapboxes on street corners, and soap companies have no responsibility to provide soapboxes to anyone to shout from.

Yes you do. You pay with your attention and with your ability to understand the world around you. Twitter is an extremely powerful bit of technology that can basically make you believe anything. As a trade for entertainment/dopamine: you are allowing it to.

> Twitter is an extremely powerful bit of technology that can basically make you believe anything.

I don't believe this.

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