Really confused why right-wing disinformation is trending on Hacker News
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Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting
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#222Whatever your perspective, directly verifiable censorship like this is just begging for legal trouble and monopoly investigations. Tactically speaking, I would say this is a massive mistake from Twitter.
> directly verifiable censorship like this is just begging for legal trouble and monopoly investigations. If Biden loses. If he wins, it might very well do the opposite.
I wouldn't bet that the GOP never gets back in power at the DOJ.
Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting
#223If I was a Twitter or Facebook investor, I have one question: What did you expect was going to happen? Honestly. Did nobody have the foresight at Facebook or Twitter to think that this wouldn't blow up? Did nobody think, just once, that this might invite regulatory action or be in news headlines? And if honestly nobody thought this might happen, I'd want the entire management and "safety" team replaced for having no…
This post has a very odd tone, as if a private company enforcing their policy to remove unverified & leaked personal correspondence of a private citizen is some unquestionable moral wrongdoing that's apparently going to blow up. Surprised to see this as at the top, on HN. National Review is a conservative wing-nut website trying to turn this non-story into fuel for their censorship culture war.
Those weren't hacked or leaked. The story is much simpler, and the provenance of the files is not in question:
By falsely claiming the records were hacked, rather than the legal property of the repair shop following payment default by Hunter Biden, Twitter is itself deliberately spreading false information to justify its illegal election interference. [1]
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Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting
#224They been steadily ramping up their efforts to silence voices. It starts with the people you dont like, the Alex Jones and the Richard Spencers. And now it's come to censoring news, while using Orwellian excuses like "fact-checking" and "harmful content".
This must be stopped and it must be stopped now. Trump is right, we should remove their special FCC protections.
The American People do not need Silicon Valley to tell us what we can and cannot read.
Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting
#225If I was a Twitter or Facebook investor, I have one question: What did you expect was going to happen? Honestly. Did nobody have the foresight at Facebook or Twitter to think that this wouldn't blow up? Did nobody think, just once, that this might invite regulatory action or be in news headlines? And if honestly nobody thought this might happen, I'd want the entire management and "safety" team replaced for having no…
Regulation of online media is all but inevitable. Historically all media sources were directly compared by individuals and groups. You used to get the paper from a news stand/paper boy and could glance at all the headlines in comparison to each other, your colleagues knew what the tabloids were running and what the different takes on the headlines were. In the radio and TV age, a small number of commentators were dir…
I don't have a compelling argument for why you're wrong, but it really seems like this is a weightier claim than you're giving it credit for. If social harmony is a sufficient reason for censorship, is there any basis left for objecting to the Great Firewall?
Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting
#226For a counterpoint on why this story is likely BS: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/fivepoints/5-points-on-why-the...
Which of these points do you find persuasive?
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
This post has a very odd tone, as if a private company enforcing their policy to remove unverified & leaked personal correspondence of a private citizen is some unquestionable moral wrongdoing that's apparently going to blow up. Surprised to see this as at the top, on HN. National Review is a conservative wing-nut website trying to turn this non-story into fuel for their censorship culture war.
Those weren't hacked or leaked. The story is much simpler, and the provenance of the files is not in question: By falsely claiming the records were hacked, rather than the legal property of the repair shop following payment default by Hunter Biden, Twitter is itself deliberately spreading false information to justify its illegal election interference. [1] -- [1] https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1316484977928941570
The provenance of the files is not questioned by far-right political operatives like Sean Davis who are pushing this story in the first place, but to anybody with half a brain cell and an ounce of skepticism the whole story stinks. Just listen to this interview with the owner of the repair shop these files purportedly came from, who changes his story about a half-dozen times in the span of sixty minutes:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunter...
It's not even clear that it was Hunter who dropped off the laptops in the first place!
Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting
#228Facebook is NOT blocking the Post from posting. They are limiting sharing. This headline is a good example of way it may have been the right move. Misinformation spreads fast.
They literally locked their account.
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#229Just step back a little and consider the alternatives here. NYP is pretty obviously smearing for a major civil event here, a civil event that has the potential of causing serious harm to the second largest democracy in the world. If the social media companies would just allow this smearing to go unhindered, they are basically saying: “We don’t care if bad actors use our platform to undermine our democracy,” which is…
We live in a country where we have elected officials and laws to deal with individuals and organizations that undermine our democracy. I don't need some random collective of people headquarted in a random state to decide those things for me.
Conservatives: we don't need the government censoring things! Trust the free market
Free market: censors things
Conservatives: no, not like that
Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting
#230I don't pay for twitter, I don't have any reasonable expectations for a SLA regarding anything including DMs. Just like I have no responsibility to listen to people on soapboxes on street corners, and soap companies have no responsibility to provide soapboxes to anyone to shout from.
Yes you do. You pay with your attention and with your ability to understand the world around you.
Twitter is an extremely powerful bit of technology that can basically make you believe anything. As a trade for entertainment/dopamine: you are allowing it to.