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Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by StanislavPetrov »

cblconfederate wrote: post #147
StanislavPetrov wrote: post #124

Aside from the censorship issue, Twitter is making a mockery of its own policy. Twitter is ostensibly blocking this article under their, "no hacks or leaks may be linked to" policy, while only a couple of weeks ago the story about the Trump tax returns (derived from a leak) was all over Twitter without being suppressed at all. If Twitter is going to arbitrarily choose which news to censor it should do so without usin…

Twitter isnt required to be impartial, they are allowed to editorialize to their preference like all the media does. There's a certain anomaly in the US that doesn't provide other media with the same legal protections, but that's something to work on

Twitter isn't required to be impartial, but you'd think they'd want to avoid openly painting themselves as lying hypocrites. If they are going to censor news they don't like, they'd be better off just censoring it rather than putting on the patently false charade of pretending they have a standard which is being violated. A simple, "we reserve the right to remove any and all content posted" would suffice, instead of pretending to be impartial arbiters of truth.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by arrosenberg »

partiallypro wrote: post #127
rectang wrote: post #108

For a counterpoint on why this story is likely BS: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/fivepoints/5-points-on-why-the...

It likely is BS, but not definitely. Even some of the points in the TPM article aren't very strong (I'm sorry, but journalists mocking the story isn't a point.) But, even if it is, it's not the role of Facebook to decide it is or isn't, when it is not verify-ably false. Instead they should just elevate critics of the article/scoop like the article you linked.

> But, even if it is, it's not the role of Facebook to decide it is or isn't, when it is not verify-ably false. Instead they should just elevate critics of the article/scoop like the article you linked.

Facebook will do whatever provides the greatest return for their shareholders - they have no duty to Constitutional values. That is the only thing that will drive their decision making, so obviously they decided the long term risks of letting Trump abuse their platform with propaganda outweighs the short-term blow back from conservatives, who appear likely to be out of power in 4 months anyways.

If the public wants a role in how Facebook should handle this type of thing, then Congress needs to stop play-acting and starting writing legislation.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

tboyd47 wrote: post #120
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #103

If I was a Twitter or Facebook investor, I have one question: What did you expect was going to happen? Honestly. Did nobody have the foresight at Facebook or Twitter to think that this wouldn't blow up? Did nobody think, just once, that this might invite regulatory action or be in news headlines? And if honestly nobody thought this might happen, I'd want the entire management and "safety" team replaced for having no…

They probably have been doing this for a while, and this was just the first time they got called out for it. Regulatory action has been in the works for some time. Whether or not it goes through depends only on politics. The mainstream media already doesn't like them for eating their lunch. Twitter has nothing to lose by doing this. It will damage Facebook's brand identity as being a "free speech" platform, but that'…

Actually, Twitter has one massive thing to lose: Section 230. Already, senators are taking this as the perfect reason to repeal or reform 230, and that would directly impact twitter.

Remember how there were hearings about 230 just two weeks ago? Twitter just shot themselves and their arguments for 230 in the foot with this. Which again begs the question from an investor's point of view: What did you expect was going to happen? Did you seriously not think this would affect the 230 debate?

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by quest88 »

benmmurphy wrote: post #17

I think it is crazy that twitter has gone down this path. Being the arbiter of truth makes their job much harder and doesn’t seem to have a big upside. If they have an agenda they want to push the upside might be there but otherwise it’s just a perpetual shitshow.

It's not as crazy if you think of all the people who yell "Something should be done about big tech enabling the spread of false information!!!!!".

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by ceejayoz »

jimbob45 wrote: post #75
gscott wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering many people have already voted and probably do not care about this issue it would be unlikely to affect the outcome of the election anyway.

How could that be true when the general consensus is that Comey’s reopening of Hillary’s case greatly swung the 2016 election?

That trick is probably less likely to work this second time around.

Not that it has stopped Pompeo from teasing more Hillary emails in recent weeks, of course.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by riffic »

spoopyskelly wrote: post #159
riffic wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really care about Twitter or Facebook to be honest. It's not the only game in town. I'd be more concerned if I bought server hosting from AWS, stood up a WordPress blog about my thoughts on capitalism, socialism, sports, and dogs, and Amazon decides to suspend my account due to my writings.

They will do that if your postings are wrongthink enough. And your registrar will fuck your domain too. See: stormer, 8chan, etc.

you know what, that's absolutely true. But you have a better chance of remaining online with your wrongthink than by remaining on a platform such as Twitter, Facebook, etc.

See: stormer, 8chan, etc.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by free_rms »

riffic wrote: post #146
free_rms wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should have done that instead of posting this comment on hacker news, then. Entry 1, "a reply to lapcatsoftware". Why use social media?

While referring to a hypothetical blog, you wrote: >You should have done that In a way, the New York Post can do exactly this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24781812 These media corporations really should be paying attention to the changing landscape of open web standards. Their entanglement with corporate social platforms for eyeballs will be their own undoing.

I'd love to see open standards proliferate for that reason.

In our current world, they haven't, and you're responding here on a corporate social platform. Because that's where the people are.

What if it were your ox being gored?

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by throwawa3495 »

SamReidHughes wrote: post #134
drcongo wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the NY Post considered a serious newspaper over there?

Yes, it's a serious newspaper. But it is known to use sans serif fonts and hire people that went to public schools.

>hire people that went to public schools.

You say this like it's an insult.

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