Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by free_rms » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:52 PM UTC

riffic wrote: post #112

_qulr wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just Twitter, it's also Facebook. (I believe Facebook was actually the first to take action.) What if Google does it too? In the past few years, we've seen these big tech companies operate in a manner that seems collusive. They follow each other's cues. One company is the first to censor, and then the other companies follow very quickly with the exact same censorship. (The quick collective action tends to di…

I don't really care about Twitter or Facebook to be honest. It's not the only game in town. I'd be more concerned if I bought server hosting from AWS, stood up a WordPress blog about my thoughts on capitalism, socialism, sports, and dogs, and Amazon decides to suspend my account due to my writings.

You should have done that instead of posting this comment on hacker news, then. Entry 1, "a reply to lapcatsoftware".

Why use social media?

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by likeafox » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:53 PM UTC

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #103

If I was a Twitter or Facebook investor, I have one question: What did you expect was going to happen? Honestly. Did nobody have the foresight at Facebook or Twitter to think that this wouldn't blow up? Did nobody think, just once, that this might invite regulatory action or be in news headlines? And if honestly nobody thought this might happen, I'd want the entire management and "safety" team replaced for having no…

What's the probability that the story they're blocking is 100% bullshit? And if they have evidence or signals of that, does that weigh in to your opinion on their intervention?

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by pseudo0 » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:53 PM UTC

esotericimpl wrote: post #101

creaghpatr wrote: post #4

They also locked the NY Post's Twitter account https://twitter.com/noahmanskar/status/1316459416414302208?s...

They posted 3 hours ago.

Often Twitter will lock the creation of new tweets, and require the manual deletion of the offending tweet before you can continue posting. I suspect that's what happened in this case, rather than an outright account suspension.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by StanislavPetrov » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:53 PM UTC

Aside from the censorship issue, Twitter is making a mockery of its own policy. Twitter is ostensibly blocking this article under their, "no hacks or leaks may be linked to" policy, while only a couple of weeks ago the story about the Trump tax returns (derived from a leak) was all over Twitter without being suppressed at all. If Twitter is going to arbitrarily choose which news to censor it should do so without using the fig leaf of a policy that Twitter itself openly violates.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by croissants » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:53 PM UTC

tootie wrote: post #86

Plough_Jogger wrote: post #3

The article in question can be found here: https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden...

What a bizarre story. Unidentified person drops off a damaged computer at a repair shop and never comes back. Hard drive contains lots of salacious info about Hunter Biden. Repair shop decides the correct course of action is to give it to Rudy Giuliani. That is fishy as hell.

Why is this being downvoted? As far as I can tell from reading the article, this is an accurate summary. The provided evidence that said laptop is genuinely connected with Hunter Biden is 1) a Biden sticker on the laptop, 2) the fact that it's a Delaware repair shop, and 3) a pornographic video featuring somebody who "appears to be" Hunter Biden. What about this is convincing evidence?

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by shiado » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:54 PM UTC

This kind of mess is why I respected Wikileaks so much for all those years including the 2016 leaks. Leaking is an art that requires dumping verifiable and irrefutable documents to as many people as possible so they can independently investigate them. These plant jobs in partisan media will never be received credibly.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by partiallypro » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:54 PM UTC

rectang wrote: post #108

For a counterpoint on why this story is likely BS: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/fivepoints/5-points-on-why-the...

It likely is BS, but not definitely. Even some of the points in the TPM article aren't very strong (I'm sorry, but journalists mocking the story isn't a point.) But, even if it is, it's not the role of Facebook to decide it is or isn't, when it is not verify-ably false. Instead they should just elevate critics of the article/scoop like the article you linked.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:54 PM UTC

trident1000 wrote: post #113

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #103

If I was a Twitter or Facebook investor, I have one question: What did you expect was going to happen? Honestly. Did nobody have the foresight at Facebook or Twitter to think that this wouldn't blow up? Did nobody think, just once, that this might invite regulatory action or be in news headlines? And if honestly nobody thought this might happen, I'd want the entire management and "safety" team replaced for having no…

They are utilities at this point I hope they get treated this way. The monopolistic public square of debate cant have kings in charge. Also can you imagine what would happen if big tech oligopolies teamed up with one political party for a "I scratch your back you scratch mine" situation. You could have a 1 party political system for eternity and essentially remove the democratic system. The threat of big tech oppress…

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Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by shripadk » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:54 PM UTC

shripadk wrote: post #111

frob wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The New York Post is not a serious newspaper; it is a sensationalist tabloid. Sometimes the NYPost will report on real news, but I believe absolutely nothing they report until it is verified by the New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, or other major broadcast outlet with actual journalistic standards.

> New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, or other major broadcast outlet with actual journalistic standards. "Actual journalistic standards" yeah right! They literally carried out a fake news story about Nick Sandmann without any sort of verification. CNN settled 250 million $ lawsuit followed by Washington Post. Other publications are in the line next. They have zero credibility... especially after causing irrep…

To all those who are downvoting me for showing the actual truth and defending a child from fake accusation of racism I have just one question: is your bias towards your favorite news outlets such that you will disregard even the truth that is staring at your face? What about basic human decency where a child is being vilified and called a racist without any form of actual verification? Don't you down-voters have any shame in siding with these news outlets that are in it just for money and nothing else? They have zero moral compass and would readily use a child for their 15 seconds of viral content. Yet you down-voters support them! So blinded by ignorance! Unbelievable!

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by _qulr » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:55 PM UTC

likeafox wrote: post #122

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #103

If I was a Twitter or Facebook investor, I have one question: What did you expect was going to happen? Honestly. Did nobody have the foresight at Facebook or Twitter to think that this wouldn't blow up? Did nobody think, just once, that this might invite regulatory action or be in news headlines? And if honestly nobody thought this might happen, I'd want the entire management and "safety" team replaced for having no…

What's the probability that the story they're blocking is 100% bullshit? And if they have evidence or signals of that, does that weigh in to your opinion on their intervention?

The majority of things on Twitter and Facebook are bullshit. How many politicians and "pundits" are allowed to blatantly lie on Twitter? Not sure why this is different.