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Post by dx87 »

throwaway4715 wrote: post #98
collective-intl wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1 I don't know why you are being downvoted, I think HN's flagging system is another way we are being censored. Just this summer, I remember multiple articles with important, true contributions to our understanding of covid that got flagged. We are losing the ability to consider multiple sides of an issue.

Parent might be flagged because Facebook didn't censor anything. Twitter did.

> Twitter’s actions came after Facebook announced it would limit the sharing of the story while fact-checkers reviewed the piece.

The link says Facebook did censor it.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

jimbob45 wrote: post #43
rmrfstar wrote: post #13

Robert Graham [1] pointed out that if the emails are authentic, they can be trivially verified via DKIM. That the email metadata was not released implies the emails are either inauthentic, or that the post did not contact someone with basic competence in computer forensics. Either possibility seriously undercuts the article's credibility. [1] https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/1316407424648179717

I wrote the story off this morning. The Ukraine stuff didn’t stick to Trump and there’s no reason to think it would be any stickier on Biden. If Twitter is censoring DMs of it though, then there must be something to it.

Why would Twitter allow sharing something in DMs that they block in tweets? I’m sure this is just their normal policy - block things platform wide.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by cft »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #103

If I was a Twitter or Facebook investor, I have one question: What did you expect was going to happen? Honestly. Did nobody have the foresight at Facebook or Twitter to think that this wouldn't blow up? Did nobody think, just once, that this might invite regulatory action or be in news headlines? And if honestly nobody thought this might happen, I'd want the entire management and "safety" team replaced for having no…

The just consequence should be that they should be considered publishers, rather than the republishers. And thus lose their 230 protection from civil litigation.

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Post by tootie »

croissants wrote: post #125
tootie wrote: post #86

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What a bizarre story. Unidentified person drops off a damaged computer at a repair shop and never comes back. Hard drive contains lots of salacious info about Hunter Biden. Repair shop decides the correct course of action is to give it to Rudy Giuliani. That is fishy as hell.

Why is this being downvoted? As far as I can tell from reading the article, this is an accurate summary. The provided evidence that said laptop is genuinely connected with Hunter Biden is 1) a Biden sticker on the laptop, 2) the fact that it's a Delaware repair shop, and 3) a pornographic video featuring somebody who "appears to be" Hunter Biden. What about this is convincing evidence?

They're also declaring a "smoking gun" of Hunter peddling influence when the only data point is an email from a Ukrainian to Hunter saying that he was looking forward to meeting the Vice President. There doesn't seem to be any message from Hunter, and Joe has already said his official schedule is public record and no meeting ever happened.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by MisterBastahrd »

trident1000 wrote: post #102
frob wrote: post #66

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The New York Post is not a serious newspaper; it is a sensationalist tabloid. Sometimes the NYPost will report on real news, but I believe absolutely nothing they report until it is verified by the New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, or other major broadcast outlet with actual journalistic standards.

None of them are serious. NY Times made a big deal out of trumps taxes when everyone knows depreciation offsets revenue in real estate, its 101 stuff. You get taxed when you sell the asset which happens infrequently but in large magnitude. Most people in the industry were laughing at the gaslighting they did on that story but they fooled their little pawn readers. Just one example out of many. Every news source is fu…

Reporting one set of finances to the government and another to banks is a crime.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by riffic »

free_rms wrote: post #121
riffic wrote: post #112

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I don't really care about Twitter or Facebook to be honest. It's not the only game in town. I'd be more concerned if I bought server hosting from AWS, stood up a WordPress blog about my thoughts on capitalism, socialism, sports, and dogs, and Amazon decides to suspend my account due to my writings.

You should have done that instead of posting this comment on hacker news, then. Entry 1, "a reply to lapcatsoftware". Why use social media?

While referring to a hypothetical blog, you wrote:

>You should have done that

In a way, the New York Post can do exactly this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24781812

These media corporations really should be paying attention to the changing landscape of open web standards. Their entanglement with corporate social platforms for eyeballs will be their own undoing.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by cblconfederate »

StanislavPetrov wrote: post #124

Aside from the censorship issue, Twitter is making a mockery of its own policy. Twitter is ostensibly blocking this article under their, "no hacks or leaks may be linked to" policy, while only a couple of weeks ago the story about the Trump tax returns (derived from a leak) was all over Twitter without being suppressed at all. If Twitter is going to arbitrarily choose which news to censor it should do so without usin…

Twitter isnt required to be impartial, they are allowed to editorialize to their preference like all the media does. There's a certain anomaly in the US that doesn't provide other media with the same legal protections, but that's something to work on

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Post by _qulr »

likeafox wrote: post #140
_qulr wrote: post #130

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The majority of things on Twitter and Facebook are bullshit. How many politicians and "pundits" are allowed to blatantly lie on Twitter? Not sure why this is different.

It's a newspaper collaborating with the president's personal lawyer, who is already the subject of investigations into persons in violation of the Foreign Agent Registration Act, during the run up to an incredibly contentious election after these networks - Facebook and Twitter- have already been accused of allowing rampant disinformation campaigns. If they had reason to believe that the information was part of a mal…

> It's a newspaper collaborating with the president's personal lawyer

The President is still allowed to tweet almost anything he wants, so this is still very selective censorship.

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Post by rhino369 »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #8

Whatever your perspective, directly verifiable censorship like this is just begging for legal trouble and monopoly investigations. Tactically speaking, I would say this is a massive mistake from Twitter.

It's probably also amplifying the story.
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