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The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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Not to mention dentists, doctors, hospitals, etc. I have an eye doctor appt this week and I literally have no idea if it's gonna cost me $50 or $500.

I asked straight up before seeing the doc about the cost and nobody knew. They finally estimated "about $1,500" and my total bill was around $5,000. And if I refuse to pay it, they send me to collections. It's insane what they are allowed to do.

Really this should be medical misconduct - how can the customer give informed consent if they don't know what they're consenting to?

Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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A lie that involves charging someone more money is still a lie even if it's $30 (not insignificant! the cost of a good meal or ~half a tank of gas!) instead of $300

What part of "starting at $699" is a lie? You will be able to exchange $699 for an iPhone 12 Mini.

Ok, I have $699 in a US bank account. Tell me how to exchange $699 for an iPhone 12 Mini?

My understanding from the article is I cannot, I would have to exchange $729 (with Apple), or something along the lines of $30 with one of those carriers and $699 with Apple for a total of approximately $729...

Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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post #37

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Not to mention dentists, doctors, hospitals, etc. I have an eye doctor appt this week and I literally have no idea if it's gonna cost me $50 or $500.

I asked straight up before seeing the doc about the cost and nobody knew. They finally estimated "about $1,500" and my total bill was around $5,000. And if I refuse to pay it, they send me to collections. It's insane what they are allowed to do.

I've always wondered which part of the medical supply chain is causing healthcare prices to rise so rapidly. There's no way these are natural market rates being driven by supply/demand, it's gotta be something artificial. My guess is something along the lines of medical device companies colluding to prop up prices to hospitals.

Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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I saw that on their page - I wasn't as offended about the pricing differential as the post, but I was groaning during the whole verizon pitch. I wonder how much verizon paid for that placement. It felt extremely out of place and very cringy IMO.

Steve Jobs was rolling in his grave

Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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I asked straight up before seeing the doc about the cost and nobody knew. They finally estimated "about $1,500" and my total bill was around $5,000. And if I refuse to pay it, they send me to collections. It's insane what they are allowed to do.

Ask for itemized bill, dispute every single item https://www.aarp.org/money/credit-loans-debt/info-2019/dispu...

That's both a very useful post, and also enraging that we would have to do something like that to protect ourselves from getting raped by the system.

Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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I think netflix users might notice. If they can push ‘download local’ and it takes 1 second to do so, that might be an interesting thing :) Also, 1 GB games that take 1 second to update will be nice.

With symmetric 1Gbit internet at home, I noticed that other parts of the system become a bottleneck. E.g. my laptop built in SSD simply cannot handle these speeds, something to do with the drivers. I assume phone users may see similar issues.

1Gb is 125MB/s... most SSDs benchmark at around 500MB/s... even with small files, it should be possible?

Likely your wifi, nic, or switching infra and even cables would be where I’d look other than your SSD.

Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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Like the whole AT&T "5Ge" thing that Apple gave in on? :(

The carrier contracts likely don’t give any leeway on that. They just provide the image and Apple has to show it.

Contracts never stopped Steve Jobs from doing what he thought was right for his customers.

Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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Not to mention dentists, doctors, hospitals, etc. I have an eye doctor appt this week and I literally have no idea if it's gonna cost me $50 or $500.

Especially if you don't pay for a really good insurance policy or your employer provides you with a really good insurance policy. You will get screwed with no remorse.

Interestingly I did the math last benefit cycle and if your employer doesn't fully pay for it the better insurance may not be worth it. The additional per month cost cancels out any savings no matter how much usage you get out of it (if you take the out of pocket max into account).

Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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I think the difference from a marketing perspective is the big issue, as there is a big psychological inertia people have with Apple prices not ending in a neat "$__99". Are people really buying the latest iPhone on monthly installment plans? How much more do you pay for the device over the lifetime of the plan? I'm still hanging on to my 2016 Galaxy S7 because it works great and phone prices seem to have spiked mass…

Apple's monthly payment plan is just the price of the phone divided over 24 months, so it's what I personally opted for.

So, for a $699 phone , monthly installment is $29.125

So, as I noted above, this adds 1 month of payment depending on the career.

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