The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

Post by kevingadd » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 7:36 PM UTC

kube-system wrote: post #38

It seems odd to call a $30 subsidy a lie when the industry standard was a 50%, 75%, or 100% subsidy just a few years ago.

Post by orev » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 7:36 PM UTC

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #59

floatingatoll wrote: post #33

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I remember the iPhone launching as an AT&T exclusive or something back in the day. Did whichever US carrier it was get the same duration of exclusive placement?

I understand that was more because AT&T/Cingular was the only carrier willing to allow a phone that they literally weren’t allowed to see until launch day onto their network. Didn’t the other carriers baulk at Apple and tell them to pound-sand for thinking they’d let them use their network without any oversight of their phone’s software system or similar?

Post by ars » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 7:37 PM UTC

ctvo wrote: post #14

jonathanberger wrote: post #11

Why doesn't the US have universal laws that cover price transparency in general? There are so many industries that get into shady territory: rental cars ("facility use fees"), hotels ("resort fees"), internet access ("mandatory equipment rental fees"), even SF restaurants ("SF mandate"). I'm saying Apple is wrong, and so are many other companies, and shouldn't we have fixed this with a law by this point?

There are a lot of things the US should do. Our government is down at the moment, and on-call has no idea how to resolve the issue.

Post by vkou » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 7:37 PM UTC

jonathanberger wrote: post #11

Why doesn't the US have universal laws that cover price transparency in general? There are so many industries that get into shady territory: rental cars ("facility use fees"), hotels ("resort fees"), internet access ("mandatory equipment rental fees"), even SF restaurants ("SF mandate"). I'm saying Apple is wrong, and so are many other companies, and shouldn't we have fixed this with a law by this point?

Post by notimetorelax » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 7:38 PM UTC

mensetmanusman wrote: post #57

jankyxenon wrote: post #27

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Are end-users even going to have a "5G experience"? The average user isn't going to really notice faster downloads or lower latency relative to good LTE. If anything it seems like Apple is doing the wireless carriers a favor by carrying the marketing water for 5G

I think netflix users might notice. If they can push ‘download local’ and it takes 1 second to do so, that might be an interesting thing :) Also, 1 GB games that take 1 second to update will be nice.