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The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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Why doesn't the US have universal laws that cover price transparency in general?

There are so many industries that get into shady territory: rental cars ("facility use fees"), hotels ("resort fees"), internet access ("mandatory equipment rental fees"), even SF restaurants ("SF mandate").

I'm saying Apple is wrong, and so are many other companies, and shouldn't we have fixed this with a law by this point?

Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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Slightly misleading yes, but we're talking about $30 on phones that cost nearly a $1000. Accusing Apple of playing "marketing games" with carriers is a bit of a stretch.

actually it is on a phone that costs $699 i.e. a 4.3% price increase

Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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I saw that on their page - I wasn't as offended about the pricing differential as the post, but I was groaning during the whole verizon pitch. I wonder how much verizon paid for that placement. It felt extremely out of place and very cringy IMO.

I agree with that. Apple should not appear to be in bed with any particular vendor. They have done a good job in the past maintaining their independence and it should continue. It’s just a chip off their armor but they are additive.

The first four models of iPhone were exclusive to Cingular/AT&T in the US until 2011. The first unlocked devices were sold in 2012.

Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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Why doesn't the US have universal laws that cover price transparency in general? There are so many industries that get into shady territory: rental cars ("facility use fees"), hotels ("resort fees"), internet access ("mandatory equipment rental fees"), even SF restaurants ("SF mandate"). I'm saying Apple is wrong, and so are many other companies, and shouldn't we have fixed this with a law by this point?

There are a lot of things the US should do.

Our government is down at the moment, and on-call has no idea how to resolve the issue.

Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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I saw that on their page - I wasn't as offended about the pricing differential as the post, but I was groaning during the whole verizon pitch. I wonder how much verizon paid for that placement. It felt extremely out of place and very cringy IMO.

At least they didn't force a U2 album on you this time

Listening to U2 Album >>> Listening to Verizon talk about 5g

Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole presentation I was wondering how much Verizon paid as well. Between the pricing reveal and the conflation of their 28GHz deployment as a standard 5G experience, it seemed like it was the iPhone sponsored by Verizon.

I wonder if that means we'll start seeing iPhones with carrier branding.

Like the whole AT&T "5Ge" thing that Apple gave in on? :(

Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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Slightly misleading yes, but we're talking about $30 on phones that cost nearly a $1000. Accusing Apple of playing "marketing games" with carriers is a bit of a stretch.

How about there being nothing misleading at all? It ain’t rocket surgery.

Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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Slightly misleading yes, but we're talking about $30 on phones that cost nearly a $1000. Accusing Apple of playing "marketing games" with carriers is a bit of a stretch.

actually it is on a phone that costs $699 i.e. a 4.3% price increase

That's assuming everyone buys the cheaper version with no memory upgrades. Apple's average sales price is significantly higher than that. This seems marginal.

Re: The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini

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I saw that on their page - I wasn't as offended about the pricing differential as the post, but I was groaning during the whole verizon pitch. I wonder how much verizon paid for that placement. It felt extremely out of place and very cringy IMO.

I agree with that. Apple should not appear to be in bed with any particular vendor. They have done a good job in the past maintaining their independence and it should continue. It’s just a chip off their armor but they are additive.

Normally I'd agree, but in this case there is one possible justification: Verizon is the only carrier supporting the highest-speed variant of 5G, at least for now and the foreseeable future. And Apple wanted to highlight those speeds.
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