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2.1M of the oldest Usenet posts are now online for anyone to read

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Re: 2.1M of the oldest Usenet posts are now online for anyone to read

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post #115

Hm this is making me feel old... because I used to frequent certain music newsgroups around 1995-2002, and the earliest one they have is from 2003. https://usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=rec.music.makers.p... Google does have some from 1998. It is this weird mix of people from 2016 replying to threads from 1998. The organization is very confusing which I'm sure contributes to the low quality. https://groups.google…

I remember reading about a game developer who was a big time troll/flamer on Usenet for years, and who’s Wikipedia Talk page got so out of hand it had to be courtesy blanked and edit-protected at the highest level. Does anybody remember who this is? I can’t find him, despite my efforts searching for what I just described.

That would be the notorious Derek Smart.

Re: 2.1M of the oldest Usenet posts are now online for anyone to read

#252
post #115

Hm this is making me feel old... because I used to frequent certain music newsgroups around 1995-2002, and the earliest one they have is from 2003. https://usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=rec.music.makers.p... Google does have some from 1998. It is this weird mix of people from 2016 replying to threads from 1998. The organization is very confusing which I'm sure contributes to the low quality. https://groups.google…

I remember reading about a game developer who was a big time troll/flamer on Usenet for years, and who’s Wikipedia Talk page got so out of hand it had to be courtesy blanked and edit-protected at the highest level. Does anybody remember who this is? I can’t find him, despite my efforts searching for what I just described.

He doesn't have a Wikipedia page, but Cleveland Blakemore certainly fits the Usenet gamedev troll profile.

Re: 2.1M of the oldest Usenet posts are now online for anyone to read

#253
post #248

Folks, I am the guy behind this project. A friend of mine mentioned he saw the site mentioned on hacker news, so I came to check it out. If you have any questions for me, don't hesitate to ask, as time permits (and two little boys), I'll do my best to answer them.

How do you deal with the (European) right to be forgotten? On one hand it’s nice that we can see all this old data. On the other hand, as far as I remember in the 90s you typically subscribed to a newsgroup and only then got recent posts. So the expectations was a limited life time of the post. Of course it would still be stored in thousands of readers. Obviously the copyright of each post is with the author. You jus…

> How do you deal with the (European) right to be forgotten?

Probably by not being European.

Europe doesn't make laws for the whole world anymore. Colonialism is dead.

Re: 2.1M of the oldest Usenet posts are now online for anyone to read

#254
post #163

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yes

Welcome to HN! I'm sorry that you were getting rate limited and have turned that off now (I'm a mod here). Our software does that because of past abuses by trolls, and the fact that it also affects users who show up here to discuss their work is the thing I hate most about our entire system. Please comment as much as you like—and thanks for working on rectifying the lost-Usenet issue.

Awesome, I really appreciate that and I do understand the reasoning.

Re: 2.1M of the oldest Usenet posts are now online for anyone to read

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I am running it through a certain set of filters. From my SEO days I recalled that new websites are often penalized based on the certain keywords in search engines. Considering this is a new site, and there is 300 million plus posts and I am not able to read and moderate it, this is the best way I know of to deal with it. But perhaps you're right and I should get rid of it. I'll think about it. This is a valid commen…

You should definitely get rid of whatever is being used currently. The first group I randomly clicked (alt.alien.visitors) was censoring the word "public" (and "sucks" and "pipe"), multiple times in the same post which, if it happens a lot, especially on innocuous words, is really going to spoil what is an excellent project. Its not a bad idea to filter content though, and/or have a flag button on threads/posts. 300…

I've removed the filtering.

Re: 2.1M of the oldest Usenet posts are now online for anyone to read

#256
I can't seem to find posts before 2006 or so on a cursory search for a random comp.* group on usenetarchives.com so where are these updates posted on either www or nntp? Also, I believe usenetarchives.com deserves an improved web ui on top of just hierarchical navigation by group.subgroup... + month even if the preferred protocol is nntp.

Re: 2.1M of the oldest Usenet posts are now online for anyone to read

#257

Can someone explain Usenet to me? As I understand it, it's not a website. Is it something outside of the WWW? Does it have its own protocol or does it use HTTP? Do you need a dedicated client software for it, similar to IRC? How do/did you register to it? Is it paid? Who hosts it?

From the user's point of view there was a Unix command `rn` for Read News. Could also post.

Re: 2.1M of the oldest Usenet posts are now online for anyone to read

#260
post #209

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> what Usenet was Usenet is still around, I still read it most days, with trn. Most newsgroups are either dead or pure spam, but some are active with real content.

> pure spam I think this is what really did usenet in for me. I used to use newsgroups quite a bit in the early 2000s, then moved on to forums, and then of course social media took over (and now I'm substantially over that). Given that usenet is now past its popular heyday, I thought it would also be past the peak of spam - and it probably is - but having just registered with eternal-september.org, I'm still pretty s…

Wait?... people still spam there? Figured they had moved on long ago for better targets.... They must make some amount of money from it or they would not bother.
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