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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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(Not intended to take away from the product announcement)

The “surgical steel” stuff always makes me curious - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgical_stainless_steel

There is no formal definition but we for some reason love to hear it.

In this case (no pun) I’ve left happy that my glass phone won’t also rust?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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OLED's have vastly superior picture quality and are easier on the eyes. I would say this is kind of the "4.7 inch iPhone" moment where Apple is finally giving iPhone users an acceptable screen at an "affordable" price. OLED displays have been dominant on Android phones and high end iPhones for a reason - they are so much better in picture quality.

OLED's are very nice, but if the phone is used for example as a car navigation, then burn in might be an issue. I am very sensitive to it, to the point that I am very happy having an LCD screen.

Modern OLEDs seem to have solved burn-in for the most part.

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Huge miss to not have touch id in a era of a raging pandemic. I literally have not used the face-id once outside my house since March, because I always use a mask, so I have to type in my password. Which I had to revert to an unsafe 6 digit one from my 12char alphanumeric that I had until March.

Face ID is a major downgrade from Touch ID regardless of the pandemic. Touch ID (combined with a home button) is a lot faster. You can reach into your pocket or handbag, put the finger on the button and press it while you're taking it out . By the time your phone is out it's unlocked and on the home screen. I don't recall seeing people failing to unlock their phones while paying with Apple Pay before but now it's a r…

> combined with a home button

Or right in the display. The optical fingerprint scanner OnePlus uses is very nice.

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I would have much preferred a USB-C plug for all my devices. It’s nice that it’s wireless on the new iPhone and all, but it’s still an extra cable (or puck) to carry around. Much like the headphone cable, I think that things like charging could be done in such a simple way, that the alternatives that are presented just don’t make the users lives easier and generate unnecessary waste.

I find myself thinking that at some point they'll be moving to an iPhone with no ports at all, and aren't bothering with USB-C because they'll have a transition to entirely wireless charging instead.

I was thinking about that. I often sit on my couch using a phone plugged in to a small cable that rises from the power bar by the couch.

To do the same you’d then need a large puck by the couch? And a second charger/cable as well? It all seems rather inelegant.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Of note: the iPhone 12 mini appears to be slightly smaller and lighter than the (current) iPhone SE (2), so is basically the phone those of us who prefer phone-sized phones have been asking for for years. The price differential of $300 seems reasonable (in Apple-adjusted numbers); if I hadn't bought an SE this past month (unfortunate toddler-related water incident!) then I'd be right in there.

As a small phone fan I’m hoping the SE2 hasn’t cannibalized much of the small phone market. I’d like the mini to succeed. But, I also bought an SE and won’t be upgrading, as the SE us great and has Touchid.

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When they released the iphone SE last year I immediately bought it. It was the fastest processor, best quality camera in an Apple phone with Touch ID. I refuse to upgrade to an iPhone without Touch ID. Until my phone absolutely dies and there is no choice, then I may consider.

I honestly feel a bit insulted that Apple is releasing a phone without Touch ID during COVID-19. They think I will gladly hand over large amounts of money for a phone that is highly inconvenient to unlock. When it became clear that people around the world were being legally required to cover their face, in some places at any time they left the house, Apple should have raced to equip the next iPhone with a fingerprint…

The new ipad air has touchid in the power button. They should have done that with the phone too! Maybe next year (here's hoping)...

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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It's the annual incremental improvement, and many will like the smaller form factor too I'm guessing. But the whole 5G hype is lost on me. Specifically, none of the carriers or handset makers are telling me how much the data will cost . Maybe I'm a little price-focused, but that determines for me whether I'm excited about it. If I'm just burning through my existing data limit faster, what's the point? What's the pric…

I really hope that we come back to this comment in 10 years and it's weird that this was ever a concern (like what happened with texting/voice)

it's already a weird USA-specific question, even in Australia, world leader in rich-country-shitty-internet, it's not an expensive addon.

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Let’s talk about the return of MagSafe! It seems...kinda dumb. Instead of plugging in a lightning cable, I can now stick a hockey puck to the back of my phone? The “safe” in MagSafe came from its “yankability” without sending your device flying. But if my phone is laying on top of a hockey puck...it’s gonna go flying if I trip on the cable. Why couldn’t we fill in the lightning port and use flush surface contacts, li…

I would have much preferred a USB-C plug for all my devices. It’s nice that it’s wireless on the new iPhone and all, but it’s still an extra cable (or puck) to carry around. Much like the headphone cable, I think that things like charging could be done in such a simple way, that the alternatives that are presented just don’t make the users lives easier and generate unnecessary waste.

if it was me, I'd skip straight to Qi-only just to avoid the amount of whinging they would have to endure (here would be among the worst) about "omg another cable change!!11" for their...second cable change in two decades.

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I hope no one feels 'not needing to upgrade' is a 'bad thing' It's a testament to Apple's build quality and long term support that you don't need to upgrade. Samsung and Android are big on the half baked gimmicks and lackluster supports. Those phones you have to upgrade after a few years as they become more bloated than a Windows 95 machine bought from CompUSA.

> Samsung and Android are big on the half baked gimmicks and lackluster supports. Those phones you have to upgrade after a few years as they become more bloated than a Windows 95 machine bought from CompUSA. Am I missing something? What are the phones getting bloated with?

My Galaxy S3 was bloated to hell from Samsung and AT&T. Samsung had half naked eye tracking gimmicks and AT&T would constantly be scanning for WiFi points to connect to draining my battery.

The only way to get out of it was to flash another rom. Samsung never really updated the device while I had it.

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My iPhone 6S+ is still running super smooth. Maybe because I'm not a huge photography buff or mobile gamer, but each year I wait to see something that will finally make me buy a new one, but each year I just don't see it. I don't know exactly what I'm waiting for, but this wasn't really it. (Also enjoying using one of the last TouchID iPhones during Covid 19)

I hope no one feels 'not needing to upgrade' is a 'bad thing' It's a testament to Apple's build quality and long term support that you don't need to upgrade. Samsung and Android are big on the half baked gimmicks and lackluster supports. Those phones you have to upgrade after a few years as they become more bloated than a Windows 95 machine bought from CompUSA.

> It's a testament to Apple's build quality and long term support that you don't need to upgrade. > Those phones you have to upgrade after a few years

Shall I remind you that Apple was sued and lost in Europe precisely because it forced user to either upgrade after after 3 years or be condemned to live with a phone that was throttled at like 50% cpu clock?

This is exactly why I never bought an iphone again, I don't want my phone to expire after exactly 3 years because of a forced update. Apple probably stopped doing this since they lost that case, but let's not talk about a "testament to long term support" as if that was a long standing tradition.

I switched to android 7 years ago because of that and never had that kind of issue, Android upgrades don't brick my phone, and I have not noticed a worse build quality even though I am buying "cheap" (OnePlus).

The only thing that is making me consider Apple is privacy.

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