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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by trixie_ »

ab-dm wrote: post #807

My iPhone 6S+ is still running super smooth. Maybe because I'm not a huge photography buff or mobile gamer, but each year I wait to see something that will finally make me buy a new one, but each year I just don't see it. I don't know exactly what I'm waiting for, but this wasn't really it. (Also enjoying using one of the last TouchID iPhones during Covid 19)

I hope no one feels 'not needing to upgrade' is a 'bad thing'

It's a testament to Apple's build quality and long term support that you don't need to upgrade.

Samsung and Android are big on the half baked gimmicks and lackluster supports. Those phones you have to upgrade after a few years as they become more bloated than a Windows 95 machine bought from CompUSA.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by ajmurmann »

noahtallen wrote: post #293
khazhoux wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about not using it, it's that most people already have at least one (if not a small pile) of power adapter blocks with USB input already.

Right, I have gobs of them too... but they’re all USB type A, so the included USB C cable with the iPhone 12 is kinda weird. People don’t have many USB C bricks yet. So I don’t think the logic of “people have them already” checks out

I was thinking the same thing, but on second thought I already have a multitude of USB-A and USB-C to lightning cables and chargers all over the house and ready to go in my backpacks.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by SiVal »

asdojasdosadsa wrote: post #810
ab-dm wrote: post #807

My iPhone 6S+ is still running super smooth. Maybe because I'm not a huge photography buff or mobile gamer, but each year I wait to see something that will finally make me buy a new one, but each year I just don't see it. I don't know exactly what I'm waiting for, but this wasn't really it. (Also enjoying using one of the last TouchID iPhones during Covid 19)

This is pretty much my exact situation. The new iPhones have been so underwhelming and so highly priced that I haven't felt the need or want to upgrade. Now previously this year, I dropped my phone and the glass broke - but it still works. So I am on the verge of upgrading, but iPhone 12 still doesn't really... make me want to upgrade - if I can put it like that. So I am rolling with a cracked screen iPhone 6S+ until…

It does often seem that the new feature causing people to upgrade more than any other is that the new model hasn't yet been dropped--parking lot, toilet, etc. #2 is battery. "We think you'll find the new iPhone has been dropped less than any iPhone we've ever made and has a newer battery...."

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by breatheoften »

adolph wrote: post #504
tpmx wrote: post #272

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I quite like the return of the iPhone 4 exterior design style.

Me too, although it has two fails: 0. Oval buttons instead of round. In terms of usability a larger target is better, but in terms of design style a loss. 1. It has buttons on both sides so it doesn't have a totally flat side for setting on its edge. Also, the camera sticks out. Otherwise I appreciate the return to the classic look even if "mini" is still larger than the oversized model 5 body.

Buttons on both sides also completely breaks the ability to use the volume rocker buttons as a camera shutter -- 'oh let me quickly grab my phone and take a pictu--- nope, I hit the sleep wake button, sorry'

I hate that iphone 6 and onward design decision ... (design-wise pretty much everything after iphone 6 has been a regression imo, although this one looks the best that any phone has looked in a long time -- aside from the notch)

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by nl »

Phrodo_00 wrote: post #797
Amorymeltzer wrote: post #178

Of note: the iPhone 12 mini appears to be slightly smaller and lighter than the (current) iPhone SE (2), so is basically the phone those of us who prefer phone-sized phones have been asking for for years. The price differential of $300 seems reasonable (in Apple-adjusted numbers); if I hadn't bought an SE this past month (unfortunate toddler-related water incident!) then I'd be right in there.

I'm really hoping someone like Samsung or Sony picks up on the small iPhone with the same specs as the normal one and come up with something similar in their next gen when my Pixel 3 will be due for an upgrade. (I don't use apple phones because I'm against not being able to run whatever you want on your pocket computer)

Sony has had a few attempts at small phones, but now seem to be concentrating on a weird 21:9 screen aspect ratio form factor: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16089/sony-announces-xperia-5...

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by dzhiurgis »

crooked-v wrote: post #319
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #144

That was actually much more substantial of an upgrade than I previously anticipated. The stronger glass, MagSafe being able to stick your phone magnetically to surfaces, and the Dolby Vision HDR recording are what really got me. Not so much 5G.

What I'm really hoping is that MagSafe finally fulfills my dream of having a secure magnetically-attached wireless charging point in a car. Accessories to this effect theoretically exist already, but they all suck.

Hope someone (Belkin) makes one that fits into CD slot. Vent ones seem too flimsy.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by dzhiurgis »

audunw wrote: post #384
ianmobbs wrote: post #262

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MagSafe is really cool, but I'm incredibly disappointed they're sticking with lightning...

There's no point switching from lightning to USB-C now. The MagSafe (should make it just as nice to charge while using the phone) and dropping earpods in the packaging kind of confirms a suspicion I've had that they really, really want to get rid of the port all-together on iPhones. They've switched to USB-C on iPad.. there it makes sense, they're making it more like a laptop. But phones will go all-wireless. Like, t…

What accessory makers tho? Everything is wireless or usb-c now. They literally don't have to do anything.

Also Lightning was compact, now the wireless charger going to be bulkier to carry...

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by kalleboo »

XorNot wrote: post #781
poisonborz wrote: post #699

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Besides the convenience, it must be a way for Apple to eventually drop the charging port completely, maybe even with the next version. No police data tampering, but also no jailbreaks, a physically walled device.

I'm unclear how this works stop anything. Physical access is total access: there's a JTAG port in there somewhere.

Can't they burn a fuse to disable JTAG?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by parsimoniousplb »

hardwaregeek wrote: post #500

I don't know if this has been remarked upon, but I kind of appreciate the diversity in the presentation. It's not showy or contrived; Apple doesn't make a huge deal out of it, but it's nice to see a wide variety of genders and races.

I used to think Apple has the best approach to diversity, but this presentation really showed the folly inherent to the entire project. You realize that what you just saw was a cast of exclusively white men and women gushing over a cast of exclusively colored models? All the engineers and executives vs. nice-to-look at minorities. This is not a new social arrangement, and certainly not one Apple would stand for, and yet inadvertently this is is the image that they've created.

The pictures themselves are telling to. They are all weird, lower power poses. Could you imagine Tim Cook or another speaker striking a pose like that? This is how the executives like to be seen: https://www.apple.com/leadership/

Sadly it has come to the point where any criticism of diversity for any reason is sacrilegious, but people would be wise to think twice what the outcome of these policies is. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by lmm »

XorNot wrote: post #781
poisonborz wrote: post #699

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Besides the convenience, it must be a way for Apple to eventually drop the charging port completely, maybe even with the next version. No police data tampering, but also no jailbreaks, a physically walled device.

I'm unclear how this works stop anything. Physical access is total access: there's a JTAG port in there somewhere.

There may be a JTAG port in between the glued-together battery and screen, but it's not going to be easy for someone who gets access to your phone for 5 minutes to exploit that.
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