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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by hprotagonist »

ricardobeat wrote: post #632
lifty wrote: post #589

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not widely known but iPhone 11 pro has a softer glass, more flexible, which better withstands falls. Problem is that it scratches easier than previous models. They improved this in the iPhone 12 models, maintaining the flexibility while making them harder to scratch.

A-ha. That explains why my 11 pro front glass is absolutely disgusting, covered in scratches.

a glass screen protector goes on the front of every phone i buy within 90 seconds of it coming out of the box.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by jayflux »

jonplackett wrote: post #478
christoph wrote: post #60

They're bringing back MagSafe for iPhone... can we have it back for the laptops please?

It's pretty dumb to call it magsafe. With a laptop it really did keep your laptop safe from getting pulled off a desk when you got up to get a coffee and walked through the cord like an idiot. What exactly is 'safe' about this? It's just... mag.

> It's pretty dumb to call it magsafe

It’s called marketing and brand recognition. Most people won’t care it’s not a literal description of how it works, but they will have heard of MagSafe before and get the general idea.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by riantogo »

dont__panic wrote: post #679
riantogo wrote: post #565

I feel we need to talk about the charger. It is not included in the box. The reasoning is that we have our chargers from previous iPhones. But those white boxes all take USB-A. The included cable is USB-C. Never mind, I will just use the USB-C charger from other devices. But wait... the cable that comes in the box is USB-C male and those adapters from other devices don't take USB-C (either fixed cable, or USB-A, or n…

Seems especially frustrating for folks who are upgrading from a non-iPhone with a non-USB-C wall wart. If you're unfortunate to end up in that situation and you don't have a laptop with USB-C... you literally won't be able to charge your new iPhone . Especially worrying because I don't have a personal laptop with USB-C or any USB-C wall warts. I have a lot of friends who don't have any USB-C gadgets at all. Kids who…

Not just non-iPhone users. I have been on iPhone since it first came out. Last upgrade was 2.3 yrs ago. All the wall warts I have from past iPhones are USB-A.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by pier25 »

janhenr wrote: post #66

The League of Legends x Apple announcement is bigger than people might think. I 100 % believe that this is the start of a massive shift from pc/console to mobile which we have seen before in China. In fact, it is clear from this announcement that iPhone IS considered a console now for Riot. Huge stuff.

> In fact, it is clear from this announcement that iPhone IS considered a console now for Riot

IMO the only thing clear is that Apple wanted to promote LOL because of all what's going on with Epic.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by dont__panic »

wlesieutre wrote: post #110

Finally time to replace my SE. Pretty happy with 4.5 years for a smartphone lifespan.

I've replaced my 2016 SE's battery once through Apple ($29 battery lawsuit program) and once myself ($29 and an hour of my time, via iFixit). So the whole phone cost me something like $460 over 4.5 years.

I'm looking at the 12 Mini.

- It doesn't have a headphone jack, so I'll have to buy an adapter to use my chonky set of headphones with it.

- Apple phased out TouchID, and my state is experiencing it's worst-ever COVID numbers currently. So I'll just have to enter my passcode whenever I'm wearing a mask now, which is something like 40% of the time.

- It comes with a lightingUSB-C cable, but not a wall plug. I don't have any USB-C wall plugs. Am I supposed to only charge this thing off my work laptop, or should I buy a $20 USB-C wall plug from Apple? My current lightning cable is fraying 4.5 years in so I need a replacement.

- The phone is advertised at $699, but it's actually $730 if I want to use it on non-Verizon/non-AT&T (I use Google Fi). Huh?

- 64GB is the same storage size as my current SE, which is just a little too small for me to store local Spotify songs (lots of trips in the mountains with crappy signal) and podcasts. So I'll have to step up $50 for the 128GB version if I want this to last me any reasonable number of years.

So I can either use my current SE, which is still treating me great... or I can cough up $780 + tax for the phone + $20 for a wall wart + $20 for a headphone adapter. So like $900 total.

Maybe I'll pass on this one.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by ksk »

I'm due for an upgrade and the mini seems to be a really nice option. As an aside, does anyone know what the current limitations are in making a completely sealed weather-proof phone?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by DominikPeters »

cmckn wrote: post #650
curiouser2 wrote: post #615

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It's likely solve the gap of "I can't use my phone while it's wirelessly charging". With the magsafe thing you can just clunk the charger to the back of your phone and keep using it. While battery life is still crap on these (side note - I didn't hear a single thing in the presentation about battery life... yikes) people are going to be charging their phones while they use them. I hate to be a pessimist but with them…

I guess my confusion is basically that: if I want to use my phone while it charges, I just plug it in with a lightning cable. I don’t need it to “wirelessly” charge if I’m having to connect something to the device anyway. It seems to be a weird 3rd option for charging. They’re definitely getting rid of the port, maybe next year.

Two advantages: (1) the Lightning port can wear out if used often, but the magnets won't; (2) you can attach and remove the phone from a magnetic charger with one hand and without looking / in the dark.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by Wh1zz »

Polylactic_acid wrote: post #670
tupputuppu wrote: post #665

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Relatively I've understood that iPhones are still more repairable than Samsungs and other Android, based on ratings from companies that rank these (can't find a link on my phone)

Apple started out as fairly repair hostile while Androids were relatively repairable. Now most android phones are sliding more and more towards glued together bricks while iphones are mostly the same to the point where most android devices are actually harder to repair. I took my Pixel 2 in to a store for a battery replacement and the person told me that there is a chance the screen will shatter when they remove it.…

True that the screen will be toast if trying to replace the battery, but I replaced both myself on my pixel (1) for £37.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by dont__panic »

z6 wrote: post #554
ActorNightly wrote: post #132

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If you can live with 30 minutes of battery life. Yes Im being hyperbolic, battery life at full load is going to suffer tremendously, especially when you consider the degradation of battery performance over the years.

The original SE actually had fantastic battery life. If I recall correctly, better than the larger flagship 6s at the time.

Yeah folks are definitely forgetting that battery life != phone screen size. It's much more complicated than that.

I had a 6S and I couldn't stand the battery life (or size). "Down"graded to a 2016 SE and the battery life was leaps and bounds better -- plus, it didn't shut itself off outside on cold days.

Based on Apple's spec page, it does look like the Mini has worse battery life than the 12. The real question is:

- how is standby battery life?

and

- what kind of impact does 5G have?

The number's on Apple's site are a great deal better than the 2020 SE's battery life, so I think we might have a good balance here. Hopefully.

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