iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro • Hacker News Board

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by deergomoo » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:44 PM UTC

Zaheer wrote: post #177

"Across the iPhone family, we’re removing the power adapter and EarPods that often go unused, but including the fast-charging USB‑C to Lightning cable that most people need." Ouch. Do most people really not use the power adapter?

Mine sit in the box for years until I accidentally run the old one over with the hoover or something. Apple will ditch Lightning long before I run out of cables.

Of course, the right thing to do here would be to drop the price of the phone by some token amount, like £10. Sure the environment benefit is real, but the real driving force is that Apple makes an extra 1% margin on every phone.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by saagarjha » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:44 PM UTC

read_if_gay_ wrote: post #317

Zero photos where you can actually see how thick the bezels are on the 12 Pro's product page. Guess it's safe to assume it'll be pretty disappointing considering how much they talked about thinner bezels.

…isn't there one the moment you scroll down?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by oliv__ » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:44 PM UTC

suyash wrote: post #279

illuminati1911 wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole 5G thing is just complete bullshit. After the tech has flopped pretty much worldwide and Verizon's and AT&T's "5G REMOTE SURGERY" and "RACE TO 5G" marketing bs didn't get consumers interested, they finally decided as a last resort to pay Apple and see if that will be enough to push this technology through.

Wait till you start seeing health risks increase with more exposure to 5G radiation, now it's in your pocket.

Downvote this all you want but non-thermal effects are real. Educate yourselves

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by wmf » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:45 PM UTC

DonaldPShimoda wrote: post #125

mttjj wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait until you notice that everyone's Apple Watch is set to 10:09.

For context: watchmakers have often used 10:10 for marketing materials because it's symmetrical and it doesn't obscure the brand logo, which usually goes below the 12 position. Apple uses 10:09 probably because they want to be "ahead" of everybody else. Similarly, iPhones are all set to 9:41 in marketing materials because that's the approximate time Steve Jobs introduced the first iPhone back in 2007.

The main reveal is around :40 in almost all Apple keynotes. The iPhone Pros today were at :46.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by mikestew » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:45 PM UTC

hentrep wrote: post #239

Does the MagSafe feature run the risk of demagnetizing credit cards and hotel keys?

Buried in the marketing content of their web pages somewhere, which I'm too lazy to go look for again, is the answer: "no".

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by whoisburbansky » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:45 PM UTC

clarkmoody wrote: post #332

whoisburbansky wrote: post #98

The optical stabilization by moving the sensor looks pretty incredible, it's kind of nuts that it's even possible to do that.

It's been available in camera lenses and sensors for decades[0]. That doesn't diminish the cool factor, but Apple didn't invent it, by a long shot. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_stabilization#Optical_im...

No, of course, I'd just previously assumed it was the sort of thing only a couple thousand dollars worth of. You might also want to link to the section on In-Body Stabilization instead, since that's what I was specifically calling out here. iPhones have had lens OIS for a while now, unless I'm mistaken.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by olex » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:45 PM UTC

read_if_gay_ wrote: post #317

Zero photos where you can actually see how thick the bezels are on the 12 Pro's product page. Guess it's safe to assume it'll be pretty disappointing considering how much they talked about thinner bezels.

Looking at specs, the 12 (and 12 Pro) has the same 6.1" screen size as the XR/11 did, but body length and width are both about 4mm smaller. So that's ~2mm less bezel all around presumably.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by jedberg » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:46 PM UTC

read_if_gay_ wrote: post #317

Zero photos where you can actually see how thick the bezels are on the 12 Pro's product page. Guess it's safe to assume it'll be pretty disappointing considering how much they talked about thinner bezels.

You can divine it from the tech specs page by comparing the screen size to your existing phone.

https://www.apple.com/iphone-12-pro/specs/

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by saagarjha » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:46 PM UTC

texuf wrote: post #294

cbsks wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My big question is... does the new "Ceramic Shield" mean that I won't need a screen protector anymore?

I don't put my iphone in the same pocket as my keys and my phone is scratch free after 3 years. The screens are made of sapphire, you don't need a screen protector. [edit] Not made of sapphire. My head has been in the sand.

Just the camera lens and the home button on devices with Touch ID; their deal with GT Advanced Technologies fell through and the company folded.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by dddddaviddddd » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:46 PM UTC

periya wrote: post #330

What’s the RAM on the phone I tried looking at the tech specs page but I can’t seem to find it. Is it still 2GB?

Usually this only comes out when benchmarking software can be run on the phones. Apple doesn't disclose it.