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San Francisco Apartment Rents Crater Up to 31%, Most in U.S.

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Re: San Francisco Apartment Rents Crater Up to 31%, Most in U.S.

#41

A good start, let's hope it continues. Rents are still roughly double what they were 15 years ago, when decent studios in central neighborhoods went for under $1000/mo.

US inflation over that period was 35%. So that means rent increased by ~50% in 15 years, this is way less than I imagined for SF.

That cherry-picks the top tick from the last housing price bubble. Compared to either 10 or 20 years ago, housing prices have more than doubled.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/SFXRSA

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#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Had to look up that word as a non-native speaker. Didn’t find anything but this article. Anyone ever heard of this term?

"Crater up to" is not its own phrase. The title would be better written as: "San Francisco Apartment Rents Crater, up to 31%" meaning, the rents fell drastically, by as much as 31%.

> The title would be better written as: > "San Francisco Apartment Rents Crater, up to 31%"

No, it wouldn't. The comma makes the “up to” phrase bizarre and detached, and does nothing to improve things. It would only make sense if it was trying to say the rents both “cratered” and somehow went up (though what the % would be measured against in that case is hard to understand.)

As a sentence, it would read better with a “by” after crater, though it would be even better (and be a more accurate title) if it dropped the “up to” and just gave a single measure of the drop rather than one end of a range. “Up to” is a clickbait term that always obscured rather than clarifies.

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#45

> The figures underscore how the pandemic has roiled property markets and changed renter preferences. With companies allowing employees to work from home, people have fled cramped and costly urban areas in droves, seeking extra room in the suburbs or cheaper cities. I am skeptical. Yes a lot of Bay Area companies are allowing work from home for now, but are people really weighing that so heavily that they’re moving?…

While I don't want to live in a super urban place like SF, I will always live near a downtown. The draw for me is that I hate depending on cars, so I want everything (mail/barber/grocery/work/restaurants/etc) within walking distance.

The lifestyle advantage to walking around as your primary source of commute is so significant that I couldn't imagine ever going back.

Re: San Francisco Apartment Rents Crater Up to 31%, Most in U.S.

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> The figures underscore how the pandemic has roiled property markets and changed renter preferences. With companies allowing employees to work from home, people have fled cramped and costly urban areas in droves, seeking extra room in the suburbs or cheaper cities. I am skeptical. Yes a lot of Bay Area companies are allowing work from home for now, but are people really weighing that so heavily that they’re moving?…

"I am skeptical. Yes a lot of Bay Area companies are allowing work from home for now, but are people really weighing that so heavily that they’re moving?" It is the marginal buyer, not the entire population, that swings the price. It's the last few properties for sale that swing the price. Someone downthread explained it very nicely: "Rent is like a traffic jam. The market collapses on the margin. You don't need to r…

yep - rent is the quintessential example of inelastic supply. A tiny shortage of housing can cause a huge jump in price.

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#50

> The figures underscore how the pandemic has roiled property markets and changed renter preferences. With companies allowing employees to work from home, people have fled cramped and costly urban areas in droves, seeking extra room in the suburbs or cheaper cities. I am skeptical. Yes a lot of Bay Area companies are allowing work from home for now, but are people really weighing that so heavily that they’re moving?…

Yes. I live in SF and I see people loading up moving vans in my neighborhood all of the time now, my neighbors in my row house moved to auburn, multiple houses are now up for sale, it used to be impossible to get a parking space but now it is not a problem anymore. Things have definitely changed
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