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Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by rusk »

microcolonel wrote: post #31
m4lvin wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am still surprised that the two-character icons which Zoom uses for accounts without profile pictures become "A�" for anyone called "Alice Ørland" or similar. It is even more surprising that Ö, Š, etc. become �, but 文军 shows up fine.

Specifically for that example, Zoom is written and maintained in China, so I would expect the developers made special code for segmenting chinese names but not non-English latin ones.

Are these characters strictly speaking "Latin"? Would they be categorised as "Nordic" or "Cyrillic"?

Standard "Latin" characters to me are those that are supported on a Latin keyboard, and provided for by the latin codepage.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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nanis wrote: post #5

Looking at > He immediately gets angry at Facebook messing up his name. The company changes his name to ‘Hans De Zwart’, with a capitalized D. A small annoyance, but for De Zwart it signifies something bigger: “It is the arrogance of a giant American corporation which considers the correct spelling of the names of millions of Dutch people an edge case.” I am really confused. I am assuming the correct spelling is "de…

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Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by torben-friis »

rusticpenn wrote: post #35
fantod wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a web developer but whenever this kind of thing happens I just wonder why there isn't a single standard library in every common web language to deal with this and if there is, why it's not being used more often.

Why do you need a library. Name is an open input field. As long as the inputs are sanitized, you should just accept whatever is typed there.

Depends on the language and what you'll use the name for.

Some names change capitalisation when the last name is used by itself vs full name for example.

In some languages a name affect the words around it in a sentence (for a random example, an "o" in Spanish (or) becomes "u" when the next word starts by the "o" sound -> "Carlos o Maria", but "Carlos u Oscar".

In general, for a sufficiently large and well-localised application you will need to modify or parse the name at some point. Not sure that a library can do that properly though.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by thiagocsf »

ascar wrote: post #22

> He immediately gets angry at Facebook messing up his name. The company changes his name to ‘Hans De Zwart’, with a capitalized D. A small annoyance, but for De Zwart it signifies something bigger: “It is the arrogance of a giant American corporation which considers the correct spelling of the names of millions of Dutch people an edge case.” This reminds me of the excellent "Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Name…

It’s incredibly ironic that the author also misspelled Hans de Zwart’s name as De Zwart, just like Facebook did.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by numpad0 »

fantod wrote: post #28
ascar wrote: post #22

> He immediately gets angry at Facebook messing up his name. The company changes his name to ‘Hans De Zwart’, with a capitalized D. A small annoyance, but for De Zwart it signifies something bigger: “It is the arrogance of a giant American corporation which considers the correct spelling of the names of millions of Dutch people an edge case.” This reminds me of the excellent "Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Name…

I'm not a web developer but whenever this kind of thing happens I just wonder why there isn't a single standard library in every common web language to deal with this and if there is, why it's not being used more often.

UTF-8 exists, just not recognized its necessity where it’s needed ʕ´•ᴥ•`ʔ

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by nicbou »

I have experienced this many times. It's unfortunately a sign of the times.

One morning, my bank account was frozen by the tax office. It took me two days and many calls to even understand what was going on. There was no warning, no apparent reason why direct debit would fail that one time, but it took me 7 days to get access to my account again. Meanwhile, I couldn't buy groceries. I got a few late payment fees and a mark on my credit score. No one apologised. No one even noticed.

This is not a tech problem. It's a scaling problem. An increasingly large part of your life is at the mercy of automated systems. If you don't fit on a flowchart designed by a white collar guy in California, you don't exist.

If one in a billion users has an issue, they must be really loud for one in twenty thousand employees to pay attention.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by doikor »

skocznymroczny wrote: post #44
ascar wrote: post #22

> He immediately gets angry at Facebook messing up his name. The company changes his name to ‘Hans De Zwart’, with a capitalized D. A small annoyance, but for De Zwart it signifies something bigger: “It is the arrogance of a giant American corporation which considers the correct spelling of the names of millions of Dutch people an edge case.” This reminds me of the excellent "Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Name…

I always worry with plane tickets because I have a middle name on my passport but many buying services don't take middle names into account. Also the name of my town has a "Ą" letter in it, which also is problematic in online forms and I often just write A instead just to be on the safe side.

By definition there is no legal middle names here in Finland (all of the 1 to 4 names given to you are called "first name" in the law). And thus all of your names will be in the passport too.

Filling some foreign (or poorly done/ported local) it system forms can be bit of a guess work.

Also as a bonus space " " is a legal character in a name. Both "Jukka Pekka" and "Jukka-Pekka" are valid names (also you could have 2 names "Jukka" and "Pekka")

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by Ballas »

thiagocsf wrote: post #54
ascar wrote: post #22

> He immediately gets angry at Facebook messing up his name. The company changes his name to ‘Hans De Zwart’, with a capitalized D. A small annoyance, but for De Zwart it signifies something bigger: “It is the arrogance of a giant American corporation which considers the correct spelling of the names of millions of Dutch people an edge case.” This reminds me of the excellent "Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Name…

It’s incredibly ironic that the author also misspelled Hans de Zwart’s name as De Zwart, just like Facebook did.

It is capitalized when used without a first name.

(and the author is Hans de Zwart)

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by robertlagrant »

Ballas wrote: post #58
thiagocsf wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s incredibly ironic that the author also misspelled Hans de Zwart’s name as De Zwart, just like Facebook did.

It is capitalized when used without a first name. (and the author is Hans de Zwart)

According to Medium. At the top of the article another name is given.
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