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Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by hutzlibu »

fantod wrote: post #28
ascar wrote: post #22

> He immediately gets angry at Facebook messing up his name. The company changes his name to ‘Hans De Zwart’, with a capitalized D. A small annoyance, but for De Zwart it signifies something bigger: “It is the arrogance of a giant American corporation which considers the correct spelling of the names of millions of Dutch people an edge case.” This reminds me of the excellent "Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Name…

I'm not a web developer but whenever this kind of thing happens I just wonder why there isn't a single standard library in every common web language to deal with this and if there is, why it's not being used more often.

There is no need for a libaray, there is just need for a consistent standard.

Meaning, if all programms would use UTF-8, fine. But they don't. But character -encoding is somewhat complicated, because there are a lot of languages out there. Some who even need more than 2 bytes per character, so you get special cases, which break on another system etc.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by numpad0 »

IMHO: A private company, under a nation, shouldn’t be allowed to require PII, let alone forcing to publish it, unless it is absolutely necessary(not in the way Facebook works) or required by law(webshops, banks) to do so.

Facebook as it is isn’t compatible with society. It’s at least a decade past the point it had to be corrected.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by mytailorisrich »

fantod wrote: post #28
ascar wrote: post #22

> He immediately gets angry at Facebook messing up his name. The company changes his name to ‘Hans De Zwart’, with a capitalized D. A small annoyance, but for De Zwart it signifies something bigger: “It is the arrogance of a giant American corporation which considers the correct spelling of the names of millions of Dutch people an edge case.” This reminds me of the excellent "Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Name…

I'm not a web developer but whenever this kind of thing happens I just wonder why there isn't a single standard library in every common web language to deal with this and if there is, why it's not being used more often.

Names are too complicated and too personal.

The issue is that many developers have an urge to do some 'clever' processing on them when, really, my conclusion is that they should be left alone. Just sanitise them for security purpose and that's it. This is a typical 'less is more' scenario.

The best person to write a specific name as it should be is the person the name belongs to, so just let them do it.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by skocznymroczny »

ascar wrote: post #22

> He immediately gets angry at Facebook messing up his name. The company changes his name to ‘Hans De Zwart’, with a capitalized D. A small annoyance, but for De Zwart it signifies something bigger: “It is the arrogance of a giant American corporation which considers the correct spelling of the names of millions of Dutch people an edge case.” This reminds me of the excellent "Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Name…

I always worry with plane tickets because I have a middle name on my passport but many buying services don't take middle names into account.

Also the name of my town has a "Ą" letter in it, which also is problematic in online forms and I often just write A instead just to be on the safe side.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by input_sh »

osobo wrote: post #29

Pfff, such fabricated drama. This shit gives real digital rights activists a bad name.

He was the director of Bits of Freedom, one of the founding organisations of EDRi[0] (think: European EFF). That being said, he left that spot a few years ago and this is just his side project, but saying that he's not a "real digital rights activist" is just ridiculous on so many levels.

[0] https://edri.org/

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by tchalla »

Once, I had a message on WhatsApp not delivered to the recipient. I contacted WhatsApp support about this. I haven't received a response yet. I sent them the screenshots and all details they requested off me.

This was 2 years ago and I still have the request number with me.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by qq12as »

People are commenting that the FB's bureaucratic system is idiotic and unsustainable.

I don't understand why: bureaucracies are a brilliant response by oversized institutions/businesses to force people to reveal how much they care about solving an issue. Don't really need your website to be cleared? You won't make a fuss about it.

Is it unjust and inequitable? Yes. Is it unsustainable? Cannot see why.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by kokey »

op03 wrote: post #15

Facebook is trying to administer a 2 billion member virtual city with about 20k people. Most of the fires that start and actual administration details are just conveniently left to real world politicians, bureaucracies, journos, school boards, parents and police depts to work out. This retarded unsustainable model has been sold as the magic of Scale. Scaling user base = Scaling up issues. No free lunch. Regulators ca…

It's the problem anyone who moderates a system faces, when the users vastly outnumbers the moderators your moderation has to have some level of opaqueness and unpredictability or else you have no chance of keeping up with people gaming the system.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by [deleted] »

enriquto wrote: post #36
fantod wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a web developer but whenever this kind of thing happens I just wonder why there isn't a single standard library in every common web language to deal with this and if there is, why it's not being used more often.

Do you really need a library for that? Why can't you leave the name as it was entered by the user, without making further assumptions?

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