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A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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I'm pretty sure it has helped a lot already. The key part is the "the don't keep data around forever just because you can" part. Sure, the GDPR got a bit bloated, but I honestly believe most europeans lives got a little bit better because of it. Edit: I think you're thinking about that horrible cookie warning law. That one needs to burned to the ground.

It's not even just European lives that got better because of GDPR, we're all benefiting from having big companies forced to comply with it. I have used the "Right to erasure" multiple times with American companies just by saying I'm from Europe.

Awesome hack :) How are they going to begin to validate the you're a EU citizen?

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It seems Spotify are tightening up on multiple fronts. In June I believe they cut support for DJ:ing apps, which really sucks (especially for beginners who don’t want to invest too much, which those apps are generally geared towards). Apparently it was something about buffering multiple tracks at the same time. Possibly an understandable anti-piracy move, but stopping something like songshift is really just worsening the experience for the users. People have mentioned the curated playlists being an important part of their product, but people must anyways pay to get those.

Strangely, Spotify have also made their API a lot more powerful, even with embedable players on webpages. Kind of seems like a step in the opposite direction, although they might have tightened up that as well since last time I checked.

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Amusingly enough, I think the podcast move was a realisation that like Netflix they will need their own content to prosper in the long run when faced against goliaths like Apple, as big players will just throw money and platform advantages at their services. It doesn't help Spotify's image though.

No. It was an attempt to coop free content and profit off of it at the expense of the destruction of the ecosystem.

So yes but also private podcast feeds are a thing. There are plenty of podcasts where you can get credentials to a private feed (maybe it’s ad free, maybe it has bonus content, etc.) by paying them money. Having podcasts that you have to pay to access entirely isn’t that weird.

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I've used similar services multiple times (Spotify to Deezer to Tidal to back to Spotify) and was fascinated by the results. Not 100% able to transfer the entire library, but always in the 90% range. Overall I think that music streaming services were probably the best services for switching platforms, and this is a blow that is surely gonna damage that reputation for me. Compare that to other markets that offer somet…

'Switching' in ebooks involves dumping them into drm-removed epubs or getting an equivalent from libgen. I'm not very aware of a 'spotify for books' that hasn't gone out of business. I think that's because books are far bigger investments than music or even TV.

> I'm not very aware of a 'spotify for books' that hasn't gone out of business.

How about libraries?

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Seems like an obvious and sane target for antitrust legislation - compare with e.g. the mobile number portability directive in the EU way back in 2002. Related opinion piece: > Data portability: An antitrust weapon for the digital economy? (Le Monde, 2018) http://www.fondapol.org/en/the-foundation/medias-en-en/data-... > In concrete terms, what would portability in the digital economy look like? Let us imagine we cou…

Also, it runs afoul of sections of GDPR. I don't agree that Spotify has to let users transfer Spotify curated playlists as that is a business strength. Songshift seems to show Spotify curated playlists on their homepage like Discover Weekly so I can see why Spotify won't like this. But if my understanding of GDPR is right they have to allow users to transfer playlists created by themselves.

Which ones? GDPR guarantees "right to data portability", not "right to an open API". I'm sure they could give you a CSV if you personally write to them and still be compliant.

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They should just start web-scraping then.

Have the user open the playlist and copy & paste, or use an extension, user script or bookmarklet, to extract the information.

And of course post a warning against maintaining your playlist in Spotify, prominently recommending competing services instead.

Is there something that will let me convert a Spotify playlist into a list of e.g. YouTube videos without having a Spotify account?

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I just used a similar service to move from Apple Music to Spotify. Now I'm thinking I should move back before Spotify tries to hold my playlists hostage. Spotify Developer Platform Team, if you're listening: you're imbeciles for doing this and you're putting customers back in a buying position when they were happy to keep giving you money forever. starts looking at alternatives

As far as I can tell, Spotify doesn't really have a Developer Platform team, just a legal department enforcing their ToS. All of their various SDKs are poorly maintained with zero points of contact. I think it's just a handful of engineers who care, working in their spare time at an organization that doesn't have any interest in giving them actual resources. For example: their web playback SDK has a provision about "…

They also slowly, semi-silently killed off libspotify without ever providing a proper replacement (despite promising such), taking down several open source clients in the process.

It's baffling. They could've had a distinct advantage being one of the only developer-friendly (and thus highly flexible/adaptable) streaming services on the market, but they instead decided to toss that in the garbage bin and push usage of the official client, which sees constant frustrating UI changes for no good reason.

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