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A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Post by input_sh »

I've used similar services multiple times (Spotify to Deezer to Tidal to back to Spotify) and was fascinated by the results. Not 100% able to transfer the entire library, but always in the 90% range.

Overall I think that music streaming services were probably the best services for switching platforms, and this is a blow that is surely gonna damage that reputation for me. Compare that to other markets that offer something similar (like ebooks or video streaming) where there's absolutely no chance for you to retain even 10% of your library if you decide to switch, so services like Songshift make no sense in those fields.

Having just three major music publishing conglomerates is both a blessing and a curse.

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Post by actuator »

gonehome wrote: post #30

I think this will push me to finally just jump to Apple Music (even though it’s worse and will now be harder to do, plus I’ll miss discover weekly). Spotify’s attack on podcasts with exclusivity and trying to destroy the open standard really bothers me: https://stratechery.com/2020/dithering-and-the-open-web/ Now with this I just don’t have much respect for them. When paired with their complaining about Apple’s polic…

Amusingly enough, I think the podcast move was a realisation that like Netflix they will need their own content to prosper in the long run when faced against goliaths like Apple, as big players will just throw money and platform advantages at their services.

It doesn't help Spotify's image though.

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Post by madbkarim »

lxe wrote: post #3

Keep in mind this doesn't actually "copy the files" but creates songs and playlist entries in another service, so nothing nefarious is happening. Spotify is just salty there's a service that allows to quickly find the same songs elsewhere.

Playing devil’s advocate here. But, I think it can be bad for Spotify if the user copies the playlist that’s being curated by Spotify to another streaming service. It’s good for them if they could add some friction to it by, you know—manually copy it and doesn’t let it update automatically every time they make a change to the playlist—by shutting down the API for this kind of request altogether.

It’s not about “allows user to quickly find the same songs elsewhere”, because if you’re not ready for that then you shouldn’t probably be in this business in the first place.

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Post by rconti »

bencollier49 wrote: post #25

I switched to Napster when Spotify started to try hoovering up the podcast market. They've been getting increasingly poisonous, it seems.

100% love Spotify, was one of my favorite services. Family plan, wife and I get our own accounts, works with Sonos (each of us separately logged into different Spotify accounts on the Sonos so it remembers our playlists!)

Now with Tesla adding spotify, I've got a 3rd user that is only used on the car, only problem is manually syncing playlists from one user to another, but you can 'follow' another user now at least.

But, this podcasts business is madness. Their podcast integration has always been awful (you can't auto-download new episodes for example), and now they're shoveling millions into content I have less than 0 interest in.

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Post by navels »

jnurmine wrote: post #29

I'm happy with Spotify and tried to figure out what this story was about. I saw "SongShift Pro starting at 4.99 USD/month". Do people go for a monthly pricing for this kind of service? I mean transferring playlists from an old service to a new service sounds like a one-off thing. Does someone really need it continuously?

Until Spotify releases a proper Apple Watch app, yes. I really need to get myself off Spotify, but I have too much automation in place.

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Post by aloknnikhil »

actuator wrote: post #11
aloknnikhil wrote: post #7

If anyone is looking for an alternative, I have had a good experience using https://github.com/SathyaBhat/spotify-dl Really unfortunate that Spotify dictates what you do with your own playlist when you're not even ripping the songs off of their service.

That is not exactly what this is doing. A service to service playlist transfer service is what Songshift seems to does, I think it will be worth having an open source alternative to it.

That's fair. But for lack of a better alternative, I suggested this. I think just exporting a playlist should be the bare minimum that any service should allow. And this project seems to enable that

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Post by morsch »

tzs wrote: post #27
wayneftw wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to Spotify’s own site [0], their users have > ...the right to request a copy of your personal data in electronic format and the right to transmit that personal data for use in another party’s service... [0] https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/privacy-policy/#s3 Why can’t a transfer service just use that file? Perhaps, it doesn’t include playlists or liked artists/albums/songs?

I've just requested my data. When I get it I'll take a look and see if it contains playlist information and either edit this comment or post a reply to myself if the edit window has closed with the results. They say it can take up to 30 days to process.

Here's a previous discussion of someone getting the full dataset: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17681289

Tried the GDPR data export from Spotify. By default, you get like 6 JSON files with almost nothing. After many emails and complaining and a month of waiting, I got a 250MB archive with basically EVERY INTERACTION I ever did with any Spotify client, all my searches. Everything.

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Post by [deleted] »

sascha_sl wrote: post #16

I was already on the verge of switching because Spotify was handing millions to a Joe Rogan so he can keep poisoning the discussions around trans people we apparently must have. This sealed the deal. This is just Spotify outright saying that if someone is not fully convinced Spotify is the right place for them, it needs to to be much much less convenient for them to leave.

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