I thought that they already a big pipe going from Facebook to the NSA...
Five Eyes and Japan call for Facebook backdoor to monitor crime
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#192> Security alliance worries encrypted messaging apps can be used by bad actors Same goes for kitchen knives. I don't hear them call for banning those, or have every sale of one tracked and monitored (which would only illustrate the lunacy of their "argument" even more).
Actually here in the UK the government did briefly consider banning all knives with points. I know right? Welcome to the nanny state. (from 2005 but it was brought up again last year...) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm#:~:text=%22Off...
Sort of the government version of Poe's law.
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are joking, but it's illegal in Japan to carry a locked-blade knives or folding knives with blade longer than 5.5cm. You need a solid reason to carry those, like if you just buy it from the shop (in the original package), or if you are a chef, etc.
Sweden is the same, carrying almost any kind of knife in a public space is generally illegal. There are exceptions, such as construction workers who need to carry knives and other pointy things for work, but generally it's not allowed.
Yet people bring knifes to picnics, walks, hikes all the time.
"Normal use of pocket knife" is how the police formulates one of the exceptions or carve-outs for legitimate use of a knife in public spaces. There is a lot of leeway there.
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
That doesn't matter. How many people does something have to be able to kill before being banned? The truck attack in France was deadlier than any mass shooting in America. There are costs to freedom, including the potential for abuse. Just like predictive policing is wrong because it goes after those who haven't committed crimes, banning guns is wrong. The death of a ten, a hundred, a thousand, or more people doesn't…
The premise of your argument seems to be that the number of victims that a weapon can be unleashed on should not be a criterion for banning it. Am I getting that right? If so, can I please be allowed to have my own private nuclear warhead? I promise to only use it as a deterrent against a similarly armed government getting too "oppressive". I promise not to set it off in a bout of drunken depression.
Technically, in the United States, you can. Just get all your tax stamps, and make sure the DoE knows about your nuclear material. Good luck finding FOGBANK.
Also good luck filling out all the paperwork. There's a difference between outright banning something and placing an astonishing number of administrative hurdles in the way. Private nuclear weapons come with so much paperwork as to be esssentially impracticable, but never the less possible.
At least that was the verdict last time I looked into the question.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd argue a fairer metric would probably be to compare gun deaths to car deaths; nearly twice as many people died to cars in 2019 [0] [1]. I definitely don't think Trump will be "Hitler 2.0". He probably won't even be in office after this election. Again, however, my primary argument is normative and values-based. I'm not arguing that we only have gun rights because they don't kill x number of people. Even if a hundr…
Well you're in a dying breed it seems. These days liberty is not worth more than death. In other words, it's increasingly popular to trade some liberty in exchange for saving lives. Take away people's gun liberty, take away people's liberty to refuse wearing a mask, take away people's liberty to say hateful/hurtful things to the vulnerable on social media and you can save thousands, even tens of thousands of lives pe…
Dying breed? Golly I sure hope not. There's at least two of we liberty guards left at least. The entire country was architected around the premise of liberty being more important than the State's capacity to deliver perfect security.
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#196Is there an internet meme (equivalent to a Godwin's law) about "back-doors 'coz of terrists-n-kiddiepron"? I was expecting for it to feature in the article and sure enough there it was.
The narrative that "bad people use X" becomes "bad people used X to do thing Y and the government was helpless to stop it, omg!" in various echo chambers. Soon, news reports start appearing with "Thing X was used by bad person. If only the government could have acted in time, tragedy would have been averted".
The various governments and TLA's arguing about the need for back-doors is akin to them complaining that they can't solve crime because of the invention and use of curtains on windows. I mean, can you picture them arguing that if only people left their curtains wide open all the time then there would be no more crime happening inside houses.
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#197> Security alliance worries encrypted messaging apps can be used by bad actors Same goes for kitchen knives. I don't hear them call for banning those, or have every sale of one tracked and monitored (which would only illustrate the lunacy of their "argument" even more).
"Kitchen knives" went too far to be an example. How about door locks?
I still don't get the idea that having a weakened security system could somehow benefit security. Based on many real-life hack stories I've heard, it's usually the "bad actors" who's taking advantage of unsecured apps to attack normal people, this is the very reason why developers are making apps more secure to begin with.
Another point is, insecured systems are usually easy to take control of (By injecting malwares payload into the brokenly-encrypted traffic for example), then "bad actors" can turn those systems to a trojan proxy. How does that help if you want to make things safe?
Last point: I know this is about big companies encryptions. But really, "Roll Your Own Encryption" is not that bad anymore if all other "secured-encryption" was bugged. And, really, roll your own encryption is not that hard today if your only goal is to annoy the FBI.
Real last point: Even if companies such as Google and Facebook did banned encryption, does that also prevents "bad actors" from using real encryption on top of their service? You can even send your nudes to me safely by encrypting it with my public key and publish the encrypted data here (Don't actually do that). The point is, even if you've successfully banned encryption in big companies, users will then just add a layer of encryption of their own, and that layer can be very very secure.
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t think that is accurate. Just as with end-to-end encrypted messaging apps, they would have to use targeted 0-day exploits to access the cameras and microphones in people’s homes. End-to-end encryption doesn’t protect the social graph. They already know who is talking to who; they just don’t know what is being said.
The vast majority of "smart home" devices automatically shovel all of their camera data to the manufacturer's servers, because most consumers don't want to deal with a NAS box and remote access. With this kind of architecture, law enforcement doesn't need 0-days, they only need a warrant/NSL, or to just ask the manufacturer nicely. Some manufacturers (e.g. Amazon/Ring) are a little too eager to essentially hand all o…
Apple devices don’t force updates. They’re very pushy, yes, and there are a couple of dark patterns in their update notification UI, but my devices aren’t running the latest iOS
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#199> Security alliance worries encrypted messaging apps can be used by bad actors Same goes for kitchen knives. I don't hear them call for banning those, or have every sale of one tracked and monitored (which would only illustrate the lunacy of their "argument" even more).
You are joking, but it's illegal in Japan to carry a locked-blade knives or folding knives with blade longer than 5.5cm. You need a solid reason to carry those, like if you just buy it from the shop (in the original package), or if you are a chef, etc.
Is fishing legal anywhere in Japan?
If so, then do people have to take the fish home before cleaning them or can they prepare and eat them while camping, etc?
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#200Crime will be the price that a free society pays. We need a certain tolerance of petty crime if we are going to truest be free.
You will have a hard time convincing people of this. Myself I don't agree. But I can see how it is appealing to privileged people who don't have to suffer petty crime themselves.
How do you propose we eradicate petty crime while still maintaining the most amount of liberty?